Poll: Republicans: Your take

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The Gnome King

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JoeThree said:
There's a lot of talk about biasis in the media these days: Walmart underpays women, black men are targetted by the police, straight men are being corrupted by Dragon Age, etc. Today though I want to ask you about initial reactions to a simple demographic, one that encompasses about 50% of Americans - Republicans. Sure, that number's a bit off, but that's not really the point of this thread, what is is how you feel towards Republicans. What is your gut reaction to them? What is your perception? Would you date one, and would you feel different if a friend "came out" as being one to you? I ask this to you Escapists because let's be honest, this is a very Left-leaning website, and I'm curious just how much weight the "do not judge" mentality holds in the face of the Right Wing.
Lots of questions there.

* Gut reaction - Kind of disappointed if I like the person otherwise, my gut reaction isn't a good one. I can't say much more and still be polite. ;)

* Perception - I think they're misguided. Most republicans I know fight against policies that would actually HELP them if they fully understood. Wasn't there a recent poll that showed Fox news watchers to be the most misinformed? (And watchers of "The Daily Show" to be the best informed?) <-- It's kinda like that.

Oh, here's the link to the study:
http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/12/20/Study_Fox_News_Viewers_Misinformed/

* Would I date one - No. And I doubt a republican would want to date an ultra-liberal polyamorous bisexual like myself, either. If I tried it there would be lots of fighting, methinks.

* Do I have republican friends - Yes. We don't talk politics. Usually we end up drinking together and discussing other things. Like... gaming. Always a safe topic. ;)
 

SleepingDragon

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I'm from Georgia so the majority of the people I meet are Republicans. I'm not the kind of person who lets differences in political views affect my relationships with others. I'm quite liberal and one of my best friends is a staunch Republican. We disagree but that doesn't hurt our friendship. If I hated Republicans I probably wouldn't have any friends.
 

Rex Fallout

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Togs said:
This is really tricky not stooping to name calling (oh and I dont appreciate your thinly veiled "fascist" insult btw) and flaming.
After reading and rereading your post something struck me in where your reasoning from- a position best dubbed "people are arseholes so fuck them" and then go onto blaming others for your problems, which forgive me if Ive got this backwards but I thought conservatism was all about personal responsibility and winning at all costs?
And whats more I have no idea where this "altruism means not doing what you want" thing comes from- as I define altruism it means others help you achieve and do what you want (within reason) and vice versa.

And as for saying that my philosophy leads to oppression and the preservation of outdated paradigms is just frankly inane, I cant put it any other way then that, maybe I havent explained myself plainly enough- I was arguing in the support of altruism from the perspective of a humanist and libertarian, the very philosophies that carried the torches of these movements to the bitter end, the keeping and hanging onto to crap like no voting for women is the preserve of the tradition loving right.

And yes I am an idealist, i fully recognise that my beliefs are not fully compatible with the baser elements of human nature buut then to me "a man is an overcoming"- the whole point of existence to me is to improve upon yourself for the benefit of the species, and in my opinion nothing that is achieved in isolation that cant be bettered in collaboration.
And your completely ignore the fact that humanity is tribal- we have always depended on our neighbours for survival.

And no I didnt answer your war question as it wasnt my intention ot start an arguement, but I guess I failed at that too- let me find that the post and ill be right back.
Could you please tell me what the 'fascist' insult was? Because I can honestly say i didnt mean to insult you. And I have never believed that people are arseholes so fuck them, in fact 90% of you post is about refering to me as some lesser creature that hates humanity. You've also put me off as someone who aparently blames everyone else for my problems, which I dont do. If I do something wrong I take responsibility for it. I would gladly debate with you, if I could understand where you were coming from with these insults at all.

In your post I just see the thinly veiled praise for the poison of marxism. I have nothing against collaberation, working together we can achieve great things, but then it is not impossible for these things to be achieved by individuals either. History was made by the individuals, ones who refused to accept the status quo that the commune was shoveling at them, and wanted change. You say that the collaberation was what helped move forward these ideals but the majority of people, your, 'collaberation' was against them from the very beginning.

I have nothing against working together to succeed an end.
 

Togs

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Rex Fallout said:
Could you please tell me what the 'fascist' insult was? Because I can honestly say i didnt mean to insult you. And I have never believed that people are arseholes so fuck them, in fact 90% of you post is about refering to me as some lesser creature that hates humanity. You've also put me off as someone who aparently blames everyone else for my problems, which I dont do. If I do something wrong I take responsibility for it. I would gladly debate with you, if I could understand where you were coming from with these insults at all.

In your post I just see the thinly veiled praise for the poison of marxism. I have nothing against collaberation, working together we can achieve great things, but then it is not impossible for these things to be achieved by individuals either. History was made by the individuals, ones who refused to accept the status quo that the commune was shoveling at them, and wanted change. You say that the collaberation was what helped move forward these ideals but the majority of people, your, 'collaberation' was against them from the very beginning.

I have nothing against working together to succeed an end.
And a stalemate is reached- no matter my points you willfully ignore them and regurgitate the same old cliches- you cling onto this escapist fantasy that it was a few great men who moved the proverbial moutain, like your hanging onto some vicarious thrill.
These heroes who you worship did not come from nothing and nor did they achieve greatness on the sweat of their backs alone- Im not doubting they were great people and no nothing would of been achieved without them, but any movement starts small, a tiny grievance spreads throughout the common man (that the political right seems to almost be embarrassed by and tries its damned hardest to ignore) before a leader unites and gives form to it.

And the fascist insult was implied by your logical failure of a statement that the left would of served to keep the outdated and morally questionable practices of yesteryear.

Yet another example of a critical failure in logic is you decrying me as a "poisonous marxist" DESPITE me already clearly stating my opinion on the neccessity of hierarchy in human society.

Do you honestly think that the evolution of society was the work of a chosen few? do you honestly think these people are solely responsible? Have you honestly fallen that victim to political propaganda? To what the stories have told you? Nothing is that black and white, nothing is that simple.

If it seems like my vitriol has increased its because my incredulity is approaching breaking point, your every sentence confirms my previously stated bias that the right wing has a much a grasp on reality as any religious nutter or new age hippy.
 

Aur0ra145

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hurricanejbb said:
Short answer: Republicans suck. Democrats suck. The best political party is the Libertarian party.
Pretty much this.

I'm a conservative Libertarian.

Minimum Government, Maximum Freedom!

OT:
Republicans and Democrats are to broad of terms to use today for identification with political philosophies. Each party in their own respect have strayed from what their party was 'created' to represent. Now days I tend not to associate myself with the left or right wing. Instead I call myself a Libertarian which really encompasses a lot of what I think to be right in one dimension or another.

Politicians are inherently dishonest. It's what they've got to do to get votes. That's just how the game is played.