Poll: Riots in London, This looks like a job for Anonymous? ...does it?

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Cracker3011

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As amusing as it would be to see a bunch of 4channers running around with batons trying to supress the riots... I doubt Anon will do anything except maybe give one of the sides a few cheers. Hopefully the cops.
 
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Isn't the riot kind of a ddos on society? One mind you that still uses stacks of public money on a useless figurative monarchy and embraces media corruption. I don't know what the riots are for, and everywhere is doing something that sucks, so lets see some more of it elsewhere...

Peoples of the world, riot because you are oppressed, riot because you deserve more, or maybe just riot for the lulz.
 

kickassfrog

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Dan Comber said:
Even if there are parts of riots onl
Circusfreak said:
many of you say that anonymous only operate online (wich is almost always true) however i have read in the newspaper that the riots have all been planned online aswell. thats why i thought they might be able to do something.
Even if people could no longer communicate online, people would still go... how should I put this... completely bat-shit insane.
Yes, but with the curfew they would be milling around and be arrested
 

Comando96

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Esotera said:
Comando96 said:
Esotera said:
Anonymous can't though, they don't have nearly enough computing power. And they'll give up in a few days when it starts raining, might as well let them have their fun.
Nice attempt at trying to be a smart ass.
Uh, what? Facebook is too big for Anonymous to take down by DDOSing; they tried taking Amazon down a while ago, and utterly failed. Because they didn't have enough computers for a successful DDOS.

If they have a zero-day exploit on fb, then it's plausible. But firstly, they don't have the intelligence, and secondly, why would they announce a really far-off date, as that gives time for the admins to prepare.
Please learn how to read sir.

Comando96 said:
Secondly:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/04/anon_develops_loic_ddos_alternative

Now basically... this is so far very powerful... very, very powerful...

How powerful?
... 17 seconds... 42 minuets site down time.
OK:
Members of Anonymous are developing a new attack tool as an alternative to the LOIC (Low Orbit Ion Cannon) DDoS utility.

The move follows a spate of arrests thought to be connected to use of the LOIC, which by default does nothing to hide a user's identity.

The new tool, dubbed RefRef, due to be released in September, uses a different approach to knocking out websites. LOIC floods a targeted site with TCP or UDP packets, a relatively unsophisticated yet effective approach, especially when thousands of users use the tool to join voluntary botnets.

RefRef, by contrast, is based on a more sophisticated application-level approach designed to tie up or crash the servers behind targeted websites instead of simply flooding them with junk traffic, according to a blog post on the development by an Anonymous-affiliated blog.

"Anonymous is developing a new DDoS tool," the post explains. "So far, what they have is something that is platform neutral, leveraging JavaScript and vulnerabilities within SQL to create a devastating impact on the targeted website."

RefRef, which uses a "target site's own processing power against itself" is undergoing field trials, with tests against Pastebin, the blog post by AnonOps Communications reports.

Arrests in UK, Spain and Turkey connected to LOIC-powered attacks have already prompted some core members of Anonymous to move towards using a new server and dropping LOIC in favour of other attack tools, such as Slow Loris and Keep-Dead DoS. This now seems to be purely a stop-gap measure while RefRef undergoes development.

LOIC was originally developed for network stress-testing, but later released into the public domain where, years later, it became a weapon of choice for hacktivists, most notably in the Operation Payback attacks against financial service organisations that blocked accounts controlled by Wikileaks last December following the controversial release of US diplomatic cables.

The problem with LOIC is that unless attacks are anonymised by routing them through networks, such as Tor, then users will be flinging junk packets that are stamped with their IP address at the targeted systems. These IP addresses can then be traced back to suspects by police.

Whether or not RefRef does a better job at anonymisation, by default, remains unclear but early experiments suggest that Anonymous is brewing a more potent attack tool. "Supposedly, the tool will DoS a targeted website with ease," Dancho Danchev, an independent cyber-threats analyst told El Reg.

OK, so in the past their tool has basically worked by spamming the site with junk and the website has a hard time receiving all the hits at once. This would require many many people using the old tool at once.

The new tool now spams a site with infinitely more complicated junk which must be uncompressed, processed, and by the time a site has processed the information it could have received an additional 3 pieces of junk. While testing its capabilities they took down a very large photo sharing site, by a single person using the tool... and they only used it for 17 second and it rendered it useless for 42 minuets afterwards while it processed the back log. The website in question confirmed this via Twitter and kindly asked that it wouldn't be victim to their testing again.

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With this in mind, a thousand people using this tool... Facebook could fall...
Hell they could target small countries ISP's if they really wanted to xD
 

Rawne1980

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And what would Anonymous do to stop them?

"Stop, or we'll read your e-mail"

The terror.
 

tahrey

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I dunno, given their history of doing stuff for the lulz, they may just join in with the looting (though not the violence). And I would suspect most members who identify with what the hacktivist part of Anonymous is largely "about", and are motivated to actually join in (e.g. with the anti scientology protests) wouldn't want the image and idea of what they've been involved with to be further simplified and misrepresented by the media focussing on a couple guys with guy fawkes masks carrying a 3DTV out of a burning electricals store.