Are you a Daily Mail reader? This sounds like their type of wording.Rigs83 said:One Gloucester, Massachusetts [http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/BO123132/] man drove all the way to Madison, Wisconsin (a journey of over a thousand miles) to meet an underage boy who he solicited while playing WOW. Apparently upon arrival he claimed to be an officer and wished to speak to the boy but when his mother asked for ID he returned to his car and produced a gun. Luckily he was quickly arrested and no one was hurt but am I the only one who thinks this is the most pathetic thing you have ever heard?
Honestly what did he think was going to happen? He could waltz in do something unspeakable and waltz out?
Is he a sick man in need of medical and psychological care or a cold, dark cage for life?
I wanted to felt that was too harsh and might get me banned.dkuch said:You need to make another option: Bullet to the head.
This is also very scary because I play WoW and I live oh lets say 20 minutes or less from said town. If this dude is that committed to drive over a thousand miles away just to basically rape a kid, could you imagine if I talked to him instead? Also I think the thread is poorly stated, it should of been "Pedo meets kid on WoW"
You arrange for a meeting point in broad daylight on a busy day in the middle of a busy area. I'm pretty open about my life on the internet but one of the few things I hold close to my chest is my home address.AvsJoe said:To meet them I guess. Why else?pimppeter2 said:Why would you give someone you met on WoW your address?
I agree with you sentiment but I summarized the article based on what I heard from the news report and provided a link to the site so people can see the original report. I am protected by the first amendment since by providing the link I have not claimed that the report was my own work but given proper credit to Sunbeam Television Network nor have I received any compensation for this thread,bodyklok said:Hold on, let me get this straight, this dude drove to this kid (who he had been harassing on wow) to have sex with him? Or just to play a game? Either way he posses a significant threat to the boys family, those around him, and himself. Dude needs to put where he can't hurt anyone until it's safe to let him out.
On the subject of his disease I have this to say:
"To ere is human, to forgive divine"
Lets not go around killing people just because there's something wrong with them (and I use that term lightly), why don't we instead try helping people like that? Calling them sick and deranged (while it may be true) doesn't help anyone, it only serves to increase the stigma surrounding mentally ill people, which in tern drives them further from society and the help they need.
Also, at the bottom of the article doesn't it say;
"(Copyright (c) 2009 Sunbeam Television Corp. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.)"
Here's a cookie for trying to see the bright side of this story. Someone who played WOW left the basement for at least a day.MusicalFreedom said:I will not stand for this slander. You should all be ashamed. That man is a true hero, although you may not know it. For too long, mmorpg players have been locked in their basements, shielded from the elements outside their crust-baked pit. This man, this HERO has shown to us that yes, a man may step outside to again be bathed in the light of the day, to touch the fresh air and journey for miles to
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never mind
The whole association made by the news report is called a hook, the whole time while listening to the news reportI was crossing my finger and saying to myself "Don't be WOW. Don't be WOW. Don't be WOW. Don't be WOW. Don't be WOW. Don't be WOW. Don't be WOW. Don't be WOW. Don't be WOW. Don't be WOW. Don't be WOW." And then they show the WOW Homepage and I am like "Fuck!"aimhellfire said:that has nothing to do with wow he might as well have gotten to him from a chat room
I seriously hope you're not drawing the conclusion that playing WoW gets you attacked by paedophiles. I don't want to have to write you off as a complete moron after only reading a single post.Kriptonite said:And that people, is why I shall never play Wow.
Well if you're telling me that counselling or professional help can't help, that just means paedophiles who don't act on their urges are just ticking time bombs who will act on it given time. After all, repressing urges can only get you so far, right?SultanP said:Yes. Paedophiles who don't act on it are cool. And do you know why? Because they don't act on it. Some people just have weird urges, and that they can't help. And I don't have a problem with strange urges, as long as they don't act out on them, in a way that hurts others. As for mental illness, I don't believe in it. People are just different, they aren't sick, just different. And I don't believe you can counsel that difference out of them. You might force them to repress some of their urges, but that'll only get you so far, it'll still be there. So remove the people who act on their weird and harmful urges, and let the rest be.ChromeAlchemist said:So basically, kill paedophiles who act, but leave the ones who are just thinking it? They're cool right?
Mental illness is mental illness. You don't put a bullet through the brain of a necrophiliac or zoophiliacs, you get them help. Same thing for paedos. Counselling and rehabilitation is what they need, not death, otherwhise they'll all just go to thailand and have a field day.
Good for you. What if it was consensual? What if this boy was 17 years old? That hardly makes him an innocent little lamb does it, considering the guy was 21? "Mentally screw them up" is dependent on a number of factors. For example I live 2 doors away from a 16 year old who is having an active sex life with a 26 year old.barryween said:Yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm saying. I don't care if you get a boner over kids, there's nothing illegal about that, it's not harming a kid, it's not illegal and it's not gonna mentally fuck them.ChromeAlchemist said:barryween said:He needs a bullet to the brain, all pedophiles (who act upon their urges. I mean, if you are a pedophile but decide to NEVER look at CP or molest children or "take care of business" to children, it's still quite weird that you get horny over them, but still, it's better then acting upon your urges) are sick monsters.So basically, kill paedophiles who act, but leave the ones who are just thinking it? They're cool right?SultanP said:You can't help people like that. Cage him! People will think what they will, and feel the urges that they feel. That cannot be helped. But people who act upon it are the sick ones. If a person is attracted to kids, that's not their fault, but those who act on it, and molest the children, they are monsters. The cage! I say again.
Mental illness is mental illness. You don't put a bullet through the brain of a necrophiliac or zoophiliacs, you get them help. Same thing for paedos. Counselling and rehabilitation is what they need, not death, otherwhise they'll all just go to thailand and have a field day.
Let's say you DO act on your boner. There IS something wrong with that. It's illegal, you hurt the kid and mentally screw them up.
I don't think scum that would do that deserve a fair trial, do you?
So YOU can go get your liberal rights and rehabilitation when someone molests your kid, I'll be grabbing my shotgun.
But how do you kill that which has no life?barryween said:Basically this. This is basically what I think. Of course, I replace "caged" with "execution" but, I've always had quite radical opinions.SultanP said:You can't help people like that. Cage him! People will think what they will, and feel the urges that they feel. That cannot be helped. But people who act upon it are the sick ones. If a person is attracted to kids, that's not their fault, but those who act on it, and molest the children, they are monsters. The cage! I say again.
There's just too many variables in this one. I just think he's an idiot if he's gonna travel THAT far JUST to get one boy when there's probably about 80 in his general area.PuppetMaster said:nobody said anything about blindly choosing random houses, but his intent couldn't be determined unless there was prior indication. he probably had a gun because he's crazy and american, they're always excersizing the right to bear arms. but we're getting off base here.barryween said:SARCASM.PuppetMaster said:if your being sarcastic I don't understand why. unless it was already known he was there for sex then they did some brilliant interrogating to figure it out. no, my guess is both parties knew what was going on and didn't plan on mom being home. That would explain the panic leading to gunplaybarryween said:OH yes, because those idiots who meet up with random "kids" from the internet are ALL geniuses.PuppetMaster said:from a criminalistic standpoint it doesn't make sence. that would mean that from the time he left his house to the time he showed up he forgot his alibi. on top of that he could have said upon ariving that he was there to play wow instead of being a cop, and after being arrested wouldn't have admitted to trying to have sex. if he was clever in the beginning he'd be clever to the end besides the obvious flaw of meeting someone on a game and then asking to meet them in real life to play a game together that you're already playing...togetherbarryween said:Did he TELL the kid that?PuppetMaster said:the problem is not rehab. pedos know what they're doing is wrong, sitting in a circle with other pedos who know it's wrong isn't going to improve their situation.barryween said:Yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm saying. I don't care if you get a boner over kids, there's nothing illegal about that, it's not harming a kid, it's not illegal and it's not gonna mentally fuck them.ChromeAlchemist said:barryween said:He needs a bullet to the brain, all pedophiles (who act upon their urges. I mean, if you are a pedophile but decide to NEVER look at CP or molest children or "take care of business" to children, it's still quite weird that you get horny over them, but still, it's better then acting upon your urges) are sick monsters.So basically, kill paedophiles who act, but leave the ones who are just thinking it? They're cool right?SultanP said:You can't help people like that. Cage him! People will think what they will, and feel the urges that they feel. That cannot be helped. But people who act upon it are the sick ones. If a person is attracted to kids, that's not their fault, but those who act on it, and molest the children, they are monsters. The cage! I say again.
Mental illness is mental illness. You don't put a bullet through the brain of a necrophiliac or zoophiliacs, you get them help. Same thing for paedos. Counselling and rehabilitation is what they need, not death, otherwhise they'll all just go to thailand and have a field day.
Let's say you DO act on your boner. There IS something wrong with that. It's illegal, you hurt the kid and mentally screw them up.
I don't think scum that would do that deserve a fair trial, do you?
So YOU can go get your liberal rights and rehabilitation when someone molests your kid, I'll be grabbing my shotgun.
BUT, let's not confuse rape with statitory rape. telling someone online to bring condoms and lube to your house while your parents are out of town is a far cry from being lured into a van with the promise of candy and puppies. Kids aren't stupid, By age 12 I was internet proficient enough to figure out what goes where and you'd have to be mental to think perverts are all tracking wizards and kids are helpless victims
Or did he tell the kid "I'll come to your house and we can play some WOW! It will be awesome!"?
what kind of idiot just blindly goes to a random house to get "SOME CHILLINS!" ???
and also, why did he have a gun with him in the first place???
It seems a little to strange for a guy dedicated enough to travel so far only to have a plan fall apart