Poll: Sarcasm/Irony Punctuation Mark

[TomLikesGuitar]

Let me repeat...I AM BEING DEAD SERIOUS. WE NEED THIS KIND OF PUNCTUATION MARK. THAT IS ALL.

Lol oh sorry, I guess I got carried away with the subject matter.

i just put /sarcasm at the end of the sentence or bold words so they put an emphasis on them when they read it and hope they are smart enough to get it.

I feel the best approach is hyperbole.

That or a simple /sarcasm.

A simple /sarcasm works fine.

But I know what I mean and that is all that matters. People need to get with the program and just know what I mean. /sarcasm

note: yes, that works fine.

I know that on most forums "/sarcasm" works perfectly fine, but a symbol would be way more practical and way easier to integrate into the language for people who don't associate with webculture.

 

[burningdragoon]

Opinion: The best solution is to adopt HK-47's approach to conversation, and just state the intent of everything we say. I'd say do it in real life too. Would solve so many communication problems everywhere.

Confession: I can't tell if that 4th poll option is supposed to be sarcasm or not >.<

 

[crudus]

I know that on most forums "/sarcasm" works perfectly fine, but a symbol would be way more practical and way easier to integrate into the language for people who don't associate with webculture.

Well, in books you could say "he said sarcastically". On forums /sarcasm works just fine. Even if you don't know HTML or such you can clearly tell something isn't meant to be taken at face value. Poems can use the tone to convey sarcasm or do the same thing as books. What other written medium is there?

 

[itsausernamewhatofit]

totally for it. got a forge art sarcmark on my halo fileshare

 

[CManator]

Right, because we don't have any other ways of displaying sarcasm :/

Honestly though, when I use sarcasm, I don't necessarily want everybody to get it. Maybe I'm just a dick, but I get a little satisfaction when somebody has no clue I just insulted their intelligence. That's just one exaple though.

I understand it's a bit tricky on the internet due to lack of tone and body language, but my stance is, if you have to go out of your way to explain you were being sarcastic, why bother in the first place? It's like telling a clever joke and immediately explaining the punchline without being asked. The whole point was that people were supposed to think about it.

 

[TomLikesGuitar]

I know that on most forums "/sarcasm" works perfectly fine, but a symbol would be way more practical and way easier to integrate into the language for people who don't associate with webculture.

Well, in books you could say "he said sarcastically". On forums /sarcasm works just fine. Even if you don't know HTML or such you can clearly tell something isn't meant to be taken at face value. Poems can use the tone to convey sarcasm or do the same thing as books. What other written medium is there?

Besides every single other form of text based communication?

Forums are a method of talking via the internet, but I assure you, more people use Instant Messengers and E-Mail than will ever use forums.

What about text messages?

I spend a lot of time revising texts because of potential negative connotations in my word choices, and a "/sarcasm" tag doesn't exactly cut it when you're texting attractive females (which some of us actually do from time to time).

Really, "/sarcasm" is a short term solution, but to expect the entire world to catch on to something THAT nerdy is insane, and unfair to be honest.

 

[Sightless Wisdom]

I like the backwards question mark idea, now we just need a key for it on all standard keyboards...

 

[2fish]

Well we should be able to use /sarcasm, but then we need to embrace that sytem 100%. If you disagree with my you are wrong /ass-hattery. As to the comments about texting girls, why are you being sarcastic to purty girls in texts???

 

[crudus]

Besides every single other form of text based communication?

Forums are a method of talking via the internet, but I assure you, more people use Instant Messengers and E-Mail than will ever use forums.

What about text messages?

I spend a lot of time revising texts because of potential negative connotations in my word choices, and a "/sarcasm" tag doesn't exactly cut it when you're texting attractive females (which some of us actually do from time to time).

Really, "/sarcasm" is a short term solution, but to expect the entire world to catch on to something THAT nerdy is insane, and unfair to be honest.

IMs, emails, and even text messaging have smileys. For example "You suck " is clearly a phrase that shouldn't be taken at face value.

 

[TomLikesGuitar]

Besides every single other form of text based communication?

Forums are a method of talking via the internet, but I assure you, more people use Instant Messengers and E-Mail than will ever use forums.

What about text messages?

I spend a lot of time revising texts because of potential negative connotations in my word choices, and a "/sarcasm" tag doesn't exactly cut it when you're texting attractive females (which some of us actually do from time to time).

Really, "/sarcasm" is a short term solution, but to expect the entire world to catch on to something THAT nerdy is insane, and unfair to be honest.

IMs, emails, and even text messaging have smileys. For example "You suck " is clearly a phrase that shouldn't be taken at face value.

I'm not saying that there aren't alternatives, but there certainly isn't one for every single situation. You'll find that sometimes a smiley will make you look like a dick when you were being sarcastic.

I'm talking about simplifying it, and instead of using "" or "" or "/whatever" I think we should unify them all into one symbol.

 

[crudus]

I'm not saying that there aren't alternatives, but there certainly isn't one for every single situation. You'll find that sometimes a smiley will make you look like a dick when you were being sarcastic.

I'm talking about simplifying it, and instead of using "" or "" or "/whatever" I think we should unify them all into one symbol.

Sometimes sarcasm makes you seem like a dick. It is just part of the territory.

 

[BlastedTheWorm]

When I'm being sarcastic, I normally put (!) at the end of my sentence.

Yeah, I always thought that was the punctuation for sarcasm.

 

[The Seldom Seen Kid]

Smileys.

They make people feel better whatever you stick next to them.

 

[zehydra]

We desperately need this...the lack of an ability to tell if someone's being sarcastic online is a BIG hindrance.

Wait...lol I didn't realize you were being sarcastic at first.

 

[AgentBJ09]

Let me preface this the best way I can, by quoting Wikipedia.

Though in the English language there is no standard accepted method to denote irony or sarcasm in written conversation, several forms of punctuation have been proposed. Among the oldest and frequently attested are the percontation point, - also known as an ironicon - invented by Henry Denham in the 1580s, and the irony mark, furthered by Alcanter de Brahm in the 19th century. Both of these marks were represented visually by a backwards question mark.

These various punctuation marks are primarily used to indicate that a sentence should be understood at a second level. A bracketed exclamation point and/or question mark as well as scare quotes are also sometimes used to express irony or sarcasm.

[sarcasm]Sarcasm tags are a perfect solution to the problem. Mostly because there's no one in the entire world who doesn't understand basic programming.[/sarcasm]

Seriously though, in this day and age where huge numbers of people are communicating via written text for hours at a time, how is it that we have not globally recognized the need for an "ironicon"?

Maybe it's because we've moved from using good communication to quick communication with so many text based message sending services.

Me, I use Skype and Messenger for all my texting. On occasion, I can catch sarcasm and irony with the people I chat with, but it takes longer to notice it since you cannot hear a voice and analyze that with the words.

We don't really need an 'ironicon', like this one (&#1567;;, just better communication when using text.

 

[mr_rubino]

Wikifailia says thusly:
"Subtitles, such as in Teletext, sometimes use an exclamation mark in brackets to mark sarcasm: (!). The tilde "~" is also sometimes used to indicate sarcasm. Likewise, Karl Marx uses the exclamation mark in brackets repeatedly throughout Das Kapital Volume 1."

Perhaps you could just use some of those if you feel indicating your sarcasm is so very important because your biting wit and observations would be misconstrued by the masses otherwise.

Wow, way to be a dick for no reason whatsoever at the end there.

... This is by far the silliest reaction I've ever received to a post here, and I'm quite glad you got put on probation for losing your temper because you couldn't read before firing off at the mouth. Read the topic title again, follow the trend of posts in this thread, and try not to fall behind. If you don't want to be part of the thread you started, don't post in it.

 

[Gladion]

I'm certainly against it. People are already extremely lazy now, it's annoying when they start getting mad at you because they didn't think for 2 seconds and just took your statement word by word. I don't want to even endorse this. I could just write "HEY YOU FUCKWIT I'M BEING SARCASTIC ON THIS ONE", which is, unfortunately, necessary most times.

 

[mr_rubino]

I'm certainly against it. People are already extremely lazy now, it's annoying when they start getting mad at you because they didn't think for 2 seconds and just took your statement word by word. I don't want to even endorse this. I could just write "HEY YOU FUCKWIT I'M BEING SARCASTIC ON THIS ONE", which is, unfortunately, necessary most times.

Hm... I should try that sometime. But knowing this crew, they'd just think I was being sarcastic about being sarcastic.