Poll: Schools stalking students; Does this seem right to you?

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ParkourMcGhee

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I think that the students should hide their accounts from schools.

If schools can get at them, most probably people outside the school can too... it's the person's choice whether to keep their account open or not.
 

cptawesome

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The internet is somewhat of the wild west for schools and authorities in general, because whenever they try to apply some kind of fix to a problem (proxy servers, blockers, etc.), some enterprising young nerd will find a way around that blocker (and more power to you!)

However, things should not have to lead to this. This is much the same as denying certain constitutional rights to student. I'm an editor for my school's paper, and we can't say ANYTHING that might possibly be marginally offensive, because as a student made publication, we dont have the same rights under the 1st amendment, which is wrong.
 

shadow741

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Cyber bullying?! What is this bull, the schools should shut the hell up and realize it's just people TROLOLOLing each other.
 

supermariner

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seeing as there was no link or proof of any kind that this is occurring
i'm lead to believe this is bollocks
perhaps invented to create this very reaction
no school (in the Europe union or the U.S.A., i can't speak for other nations) has the right to access the private lives of it's students
maybe this situation DOES exist, but needs the childs consent, or at least it's parents'

otherwise this isn't just illegal
it's a fucking travesty
 

hyperhammy

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SomeLameStuff said:
Simple solution to this: Don't use facebook at school.

Besides, cyber bullying is overblown. I'd rather take cyber bullying than normal bullying any day.
Cyber bullying is bad, no discussion, but getting kicked in the face until you shit blood is MUCH worse.
 

KSarty

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Fact of the matter is a public school system doesn't have anywhere near the manpower necessary to monitor each and every student's entire internet 'community'. My guess is the incident you referred to is a very isolated incident that is being blown out of proportion. In all likelihood your friend was reported by a fellow student, probably a student that was IN the school play in question.

Regardless, don't get so bent out of shape about it. High School is a joke anyways, just grin and bear it until the whole ordeal is done with.
 

AndyFromMonday

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So they can afford all this shit and issue LAPTOPS to students and yet they can't afford to take every measure and stop physical and psychological bullying? Well fuck you too, school.
 

The Josh

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Just about every school everywhere is underfunded and understaffed these days, and yet this school can afford to have personnel dedicated to stalking students online? Seems unlikely. I'd say it's more of a scare tactic.
 

Virus0015

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I have personally experienced the annoyance of having the school interfering in domains where they really shouldn't have. One of my friends who had recently left the school to do A levels elsewhere posted a message on Facebook asking us what we thought of our school. We expressed our opinions, my post related to the considerable lack of freedom we had compared to other schools, and the general uselessness of their information evening (In my post I did not give names, and my points were valid). Turns out the person who's wall we were writing on was friends with a current teacher at the school, she did not think about the possible implication of this and e-mailed a screen shot to the head of 6th form (basically the head of A-level matters). Now what happened to us afterwards?

The head of 6th form got very annoyed, and called us individually into his office to moan/intimidate/make us wish we never chose to ream at this school for non-compulsory education, all to varying. It just turns out that in my post I went into more detail, and he was most angry at me. Amongst other things he said he could sue me, and that I would not get a university reference from him (an important thing). He set out a list of demands:

-To remove the post
-Write an apology note to this guy only (even though the post could have annoyed several other people.
-He would phone my parents and tell them just how bad I was.

What did I do? Unlike him I did not throw a tantrum and carefully calculated how to get back at the bastard. Events unravelled like so:

-Due to the controversial nature of this incident word spread fast and a lot of students despised him.
-I informed my parents (to ensure he didn't preach his one-sided shit to them), they sided with me. They rang the headmaster and kindly asked him that he ask one of his senior staff members to stop being such a cock. He complied.

In short I won and he lost badly. All I did was remove the post, and now he is forever hated by the student community.
 

YoBadMama

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I think it's funny how being cyber-bullied still upsets people, I've been cyber-bullied like, twice. And my solution? Block, Delete. Simple enough?
 

Celtic_Kerr

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thingymuwatsit said:
Kulingile said:
thingymuwatsit said:
I try not to make people choose between extremes but I have to wonder your opinion:
(short for TL;DR people) It has recently come to my attention that after a decision to 'crack down' on cyber-bullying my school's authorities have decided to monitor each and every one of students' contributions to anything that can be accessed with a computer and a modem; this means that they have full access to private messages and posts on anything from Facebook to Deviantart, removing any illusion of privacy we have on the internet.
So I ask you a question: does this (the removal of internet privacy) seem like a fair way to deal with cyber bullying in schools?
Well, if the removal of privacy only applies to when you are in school, then I'd say it's fair. Don't want teachers invading your privacy, then don't use facebook or private messages at the school. Going without internet chatting or whatever for a few hours at school isn't going to kill anyone.
This does not apply at school (a PROXY server prevents it) They actually have access to what we write at any time, anywhere.
THAT is illegal unless consent is given. THey are not allowed to liik through you Windows Messenger IMs unless you allow them to
 

tehweave

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SomeLameStuff said:
Simple solution to this: Don't use facebook at school.
Once again the first post is the smartest. Seriously! Use the computers for school work and there's no problem. If you're using THEIR computers, what do you expect?
 

Ham_authority95

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SomeLameStuff said:
Simple solution to this: Don't use facebook at school.
Seems simple enough for me. Without kids screwing around on non-educational sites, they could work to raise their grade instead...

As for cyber-bullying, I don't get the bid deal with it. Kids just need to learn that some douchebag over the internet isn't any real threat to them.
 

Ham_authority95

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londelen said:
Children are second class citizens in the eyes of the law. I tried to revolution back when I was a kid, but it didn't work.
Yup. Because as a citizen it is your human-born right to be able to on facebook or internet forums using school computers instead of using them for educational purposes.

Could you tell that I was being sarcastic or do I need to get my facepalm images out?
 

Ham_authority95

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YoBadMama said:
I think it's funny how being cyber-bullied still upsets people, I've been cyber-bullied like, twice. And my solution? Block, Delete. Simple enough?
No fucking kidding. Or better yet, know the dangers of going on the internet in the first place...
 

Scde2

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thingymuwatsit said:
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EDIT: I want to make it clear that this applies all the time, not only at school this is prevented by the school's PROXY server and each student operates off an independant laptop used for schoolwork.
I'd like to see how something like that would be implemented. While at school, using either school computers or their internet connection they have every right to say where you go or what you do online. Stalking people online off campus seems silly and a waste of manpower.

And you said this has "come to your attention." Do you have any news article about this?
 

zfactor

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Ham_authority95 said:
YoBadMama said:
I think it's funny how being cyber-bullied still upsets people, I've been cyber-bullied like, twice. And my solution? Block, Delete. Simple enough?
No fucking kidding. Or better yet, know the dangers of going on the internet in the first place...
I had a similar solution if I was ever cyber-bullied, but I wasn't... I was real bullied (but I just ignored him and he turned into a friendless prick) but in the event of computer bullying: block or delete or hackz to change password and recovery questions. Mess with the bull, you get the cyber horns.
 

Eatbrainz

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I doubt stalking the students will stop the big kids from going "All you kids give me stuff, or i kill you, that's the way it works."
 

Sir-jackington

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that aint right, i can understand if they like occasionally made sure no one was getting bullied over facebook but can't just take away privacy completely
 

ThreeWords

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thingymuwatsit said:
They actually have access to what we write at any time, anywhere.
How? If you're writing online using your home computer with a username they don't know about, how can they read it?