Poll: Screw WADS
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Rolf is a character from Mount and Blade and claims to be a baron. Perhaps he is the baron of Yri.Furioso said:
I had the Zboard mentioned earlier, and used it until my brother ruined it by spilling water in it. Even after taking it apart and drying it out, it never worked again.
I loved the layout for it, though, and I will miss auto-configuring layouts.
The next one I'm getting is the Cyber Snipa gamepad:
Cheaper than a full gaming keyboard, but with a nice layout.
I loved the layout for it, though, and I will miss auto-configuring layouts.
The next one I'm getting is the Cyber Snipa gamepad:
Cheaper than a full gaming keyboard, but with a nice layout.
I've been using WASD since I was in short pants so I'm used to it now.
However I did see an article on a WoW messageboard a couple months ago (before I quit playing) that argued TFGH was a better setup since your left hand would have more access to keys.
and on a side note even if we do find a better alternative chances are WASD is here to stay (why do you think everyone still uses QWERTY keyboards even though they aren't as efficient as other keyboards?)
However I did see an article on a WoW messageboard a couple months ago (before I quit playing) that argued TFGH was a better setup since your left hand would have more access to keys.
and on a side note even if we do find a better alternative chances are WASD is here to stay (why do you think everyone still uses QWERTY keyboards even though they aren't as efficient as other keyboards?)
basically this, while my gamepad is awesome for some games, most controls these days are VERY similar so it's easy to switch from game to game without much change in where each button goes, i mean my pinky finger has never been so helpful in all its life with being able to hit ctrl,shift,tab,z key all by its little self, and then my thumb controls the space,v,b,alt keysRUINER ACTUAL said:
play some more pc games OP, i garuntee it will become hardwired into you
I tried one of the Wolf Paw keyboards years back and it was great for gaming - but as expected it sucked for typing. For the most part I don't mind WADS but if I had the desk space for a full-sized keyboard and a gaming peripheral I'd do it.
You'll run into a few problems if you focus on the arrow keys. Let's pretend I'm playing oblivion. Okay, so I'm still using the mouse. Left click attacks, right click blocks, great. Now my up,down,left,right is all covered by the arrow keys . . . good so far. Oops, low on health, better cast a healing spell . . . wait . . what button to I press? There are no buttons close to the arrow keys, if I want to press C (or E as I remapped it to), I have to move my hands off of the arrow keys. Well, I cast it, but I couldn't dodge at the same time, so I died before it took effect.
There's your problem.
There's your problem.
what i know from my experience is that most people just don't care about resetting their buttons and always take the default layout
that's why it's so big
not because it is good(which it isn't) but most people are used to it(aka too lazy to remap)
since i started gaming the first thing i always did was exploring all options including the keys and i always put them the way i like for me
i get a lot of shit for using the arrow keys and the numpad for hotkeys
and i'm majorly screwed if a game doesn't support the numpad
but that's how it is and how it will never change
that's why it's so big
not because it is good(which it isn't) but most people are used to it(aka too lazy to remap)
since i started gaming the first thing i always did was exploring all options including the keys and i always put them the way i like for me
i get a lot of shit for using the arrow keys and the numpad for hotkeys
and i'm majorly screwed if a game doesn't support the numpad
but that's how it is and how it will never change
Back when I gamed often(having kids takes your gaming from "almost daily" to "those few hours on Friday, when the kids are at their grandmas, but only if I do not have any other obligations to get to")...
...back when I gamed often I used a "Merc Stealth Keyboard". It had exactly what you are talking about. A full qwerty keyboard, yet to the left it is extended and has the WASD keys setup as fairly large arrow buttons, along with a whole mess of other keys you would use for gaming. It was great for a person like me who was stuck between casual and hardcore. You know, the type of player who wanted a serious gaming session yet at the same time gaming was not the main part of my life. Also all the keys were lit up, so it made playing in the dark very very easy.
Now, I use a wireless logitch keyboard/mouse combo that was very cheap, or I use an xbox 360 controller. The aiming is very wonky on the controller, but I find most FPSes to be fully playable at a reduced difficulty setting.
EDIT: I should also note, that the main motivation for getting such a keyboard arose from both playing in the dark and have very large hands/fingers.
...back when I gamed often I used a "Merc Stealth Keyboard". It had exactly what you are talking about. A full qwerty keyboard, yet to the left it is extended and has the WASD keys setup as fairly large arrow buttons, along with a whole mess of other keys you would use for gaming. It was great for a person like me who was stuck between casual and hardcore. You know, the type of player who wanted a serious gaming session yet at the same time gaming was not the main part of my life. Also all the keys were lit up, so it made playing in the dark very very easy.
Now, I use a wireless logitch keyboard/mouse combo that was very cheap, or I use an xbox 360 controller. The aiming is very wonky on the controller, but I find most FPSes to be fully playable at a reduced difficulty setting.
EDIT: I should also note, that the main motivation for getting such a keyboard arose from both playing in the dark and have very large hands/fingers.
ESDF>WASD.
Okay I am just kidding. The option should be there (and it usually is), and if there isn't, you can probably do well with a joypad instead since most games that involve wasd movement either do well enough or better than using a keyboard/mouse.
Okay I am just kidding. The option should be there (and it usually is), and if there isn't, you can probably do well with a joypad instead since most games that involve wasd movement either do well enough or better than using a keyboard/mouse.
The problem with the -idea- of a symmetrical arrow key system is that your hand is not symmetrical. The keyboard placement IS designed ergonomically.
Mind you, I have years of touch-typing experience....
Mind you, I have years of touch-typing experience....
Im sorry I find this pretty redundant. WSAD controls are absolutely fine once you get used to them, a matter of playing one or two games through. I have zero problems with WSAD myself, infact there is a very good reason that WSAD has become standard => its the best option plain and simple (I say this having personally started out with other control schemes back in the mid 90's).viranimus said:
If you're having trouble finding the keys then you are simply making the mistake of taking your fingers off of them in the first place, you should only be moving one finger off at a time for example to hit "r" to reload, the other fingers stay on the keys so returning your index finger back to D is perfunctory.
Basically its the same as any other control scheme, it takes some learning and getting used to... believe me learning a 360 controller is no less hardwork for a PC gamer than learning WSAD is for a console gamer.