Poll: Shooters without multiplayer..

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Corpse XxX

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Hi all..

Last weekend i bought Bioshock for my Ps3, and over the course of just 3 days, not really playing that much each day, i've played the game through.. Making the game not giving me any real long lasting bang for my buck..
Although the game was very good, and i found it sometimes to be quite a challenge even on medium, i cannot help but think that there should have been more to the experience..

So what do you think?
Should shooters be allowed made without multiplayer?
Or what other elements could they have put in shooters to make them more replayable?

Almost all shooters i've tried over my gaming years without multiplayer, only lasted me for about 5-10 hours of gameplay.. And i feel that is to little when buying a brand new game full price.. (Not talking Bioshock now since i got that cheaper)

Also looking for a hint on a good turn based game like the old Final Fantasy games, for ps3 mind you..
My stockpile of games consist of 90% shooters so wanna try something different..
 

Jedoro

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Some games are just meant to be single-player, and wouldn't fit with coop, especially those with a morality system in them. Who gets to decide what path you choose?

But some kind of multiplayer would be appreciated
 

Froobyx

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Fracture... Alright campaign, shit multiplayer. That game is not supposed to have the multiplayer because it is awful.
 

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Jedoro said:
Some games are just meant to be single-player, and wouldn't fit with coop, especially those with a morality system in them. Who gets to decide what path you choose?

But some kind of multiplayer would be appreciated
It isn't a shooter, but Champions: Return to Arms had multiplayer with good / evil.

OT: Personally I like multiplayer shooters, so long as they don't add the retarded overpowered shit that requires 60 billion kills and makes new players useless. I think if anything, shooters should just get online Deathmatch.
 

Proteus214

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I don't think that a shooter has a chance of going anywhere without a decent multiplayer mode. It essentially dictates the staying power of a game. Single player story modes almost by definition have limited use.
 

Corpse XxX

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Shadowed Intent said:
In my opinion if there were less focus on multiplayer a lot of shooters would be better.
That may be true, Bioshock's story and gameplay was very good, but i've played equally good shooters with multiplayer in them..
 

Davey Woo

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I don't mind shooters without multiplayer, but I don't like shooters that are multiplayer only (Battlefield 2, Shadowrun etc)
 

Avaholic03

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There's a market for multiplayer-only shooters like TF. So I would think the opposite would be true, especially for the few people who still don't have internet access or not enough bandwidth for online gaming.
 

Corpse XxX

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Proteus214 said:
I don't think that a shooter has a chance of going anywhere without a decent multiplayer mode. It essentially dictates the staying power of a game. Single player story modes almost by definition have limited use.
Its what i feel also, considering TF2, a game without single player, still the game i have had most fun with and played the most ever..

So it seems to me that shooters without singleplayer work, but if you cut out multiplayer, then it is pretty much fucked considering gameplay hours..
 

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One the on hand, Team Fortress 2 is multiplayer only and it's an amazing game. On the other hand, BioShock's my favorite game ever, and one part of that is that it didn't have one of the increasingly-common pseudo-RPG multiplayer modes (AHEM, Call of Duty) shoehorned in and instead focused on what it's good at. It looks like the sequel will at least do this well, though.

TL,DR: Multiplayer's fine as long as it's not just shoved in for its own sake.
 

ChromeAlchemist

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Red Steel 2. No multi-player. And I could care less. Why? Because MW2 is coming (which I'll be buying used).

And if you want an RPG, try Valkyria Chronicles. Good stuff.
 

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Davey Woo said:
I don't mind shooters without multiplayer, but I don't like shooters that are multiplayer only (Battlefield 2, Shadowrun etc)
Have you tried TF2?
In my mind may be the best game ever created..
 

Dancingman

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I won't die if a game has no story or single-player just as long as the game is good, I mean I play Team Fortress 2 all the time and I have yet to be annoyed at its lack of single-player and of a story. To me, that's better than all of the shooters who tack on some crap story about a terrorist plotting to drop nuclear weaponry on New York or something. As for a game with no multiplayer well, as long as it's worth playing and replaying the campaign. A game that does this for me is Gears of War, even though it is a multiplayer game, I find the campaign fun and interesting enough to replay it and not have to go online.
 

Joos

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Games that primarily focus on story and/or have some fancy game mechanic that would break MP doesn't need MP. Best example would be Max Payne and other bullet time games.

Also, you should try Valkyria Chronicles for PS3, which has got some sort of semi-realtime, semi turn-based game mechanic which works pretty well.
 

Corpse XxX

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ChromeAlchemist said:
Red Steel 2. No multi-player. And I could care less. Why? Because MW2 is coming (which I'll be buying used).

And if you want an RPG, try Valkyria Chronicles. Good stuff.
Valkyria Chronicles, im guessing you've tried it..
Hopefully it does last longer than 10 hours?
Any pro's and con's bout the game?
 

high_castle

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I personally don't play much multiplayer. When I do, it's usually with a friend sitting in the same room with me and we're playing something a little more retro: Sonic and Tails 2, for instance. Or Mario Kart.

For the most part, though, I game to relieve stress from the rest of my day. Where does that stress come from? Why, from people! So why am I going to ruin my free time by exposing myself to more people? And let's be honest, it's not like the XBOX live crowd is always the most respectful or endearing bunch. I think we've all played a few rounds with some jerk we just want to kill. That's the problem with anonymity. If no one knows who you are, everything is permitted.

I personally liked BioShock, which is rare because normally I'm horrendous at shooters. It had a unique story which actually mattered, not something tacked on as an afterthought. By comparison, I'm currently playing Rainbow Six Vegas 2, and the story is barely even there. It's just a trim excuse to go into multiple locales and shoot people. I'm not even sure why at this point. So rather than excising story modes from shooters, I think they should be stronger. The dev team should concentrate on story first. The mechanics of a shooter are all pretty much the same, anyway. Play one and, for the most part, you've played them all. Or at least 90%. But a solid story is what set BioShock, SystemShock, Half-Life, and the RPG-Third Person Shooter Mass Effect apart from the rest of the crowd.
 

IamQ

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Imo, it's a mus for shooters, because frankly, I have yet to play an fps with a single player campaign that hasn't bored me out of my head.
 

DazZ.

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I LOVE multiplayer and almost play it exclusively.
However I really enjoyed Half Life and Bioshock, and I don't think the gun fights in Bioshock would work that well for a multiplayer game, (Health bar above head and just the way it felt to me) so I liked it as is.

However Bioshock 2 has multiplayer so I may be proven totally wrong and that it could work well, but to me Bioshock being single player only didn't remove any of its charm. Games with atmosphere I prefer single player only.
 

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Dancingman said:
I won't die if a game has no story or single-player just as long as the game is good, I mean I play Team Fortress 2 all the time and I have yet to be annoyed at its lack of single-player and of a story. To me, that's better than all of the shooters who tack on some crap story about a terrorist plotting to drop nuclear weaponry on New York or something. As for a game with no multiplayer well, as long as it's worth playing and replaying the campaign. A game that does this for me is Gears of War, even though it is a multiplayer game, I find the campaign fun and interesting enough to replay it and not have to go online.
I dont mind if a game wants to be a multiplayer game, it works well sometimes. Not an FPS but Chromehounds was 95% online. The singe player was just tutorial. I just hate when Halo 3 happens and a once great story gets pushed away.