Taser dueling would be awesome, whoever ends up twitching on the ground loses but nobody has to die.
Poll: Should dueling be legal?
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It shouldn't be legal at all. In an idealistic world maybe, but in the real world their are too many problems.
How do you prove someone was killed under dueling circumstances, through paperwork?
In what circumstance is letting emotionally unstable people fight to the death a good idea when disputes can be solved in so many other ways?
What if someone is forced into a duel?
How do you prove someone was killed under dueling circumstances, through paperwork?
In what circumstance is letting emotionally unstable people fight to the death a good idea when disputes can be solved in so many other ways?
What if someone is forced into a duel?
No, that's a stupid idea.
Imagine:
1. The amount of dead bodies everywhere.
2. Stupid decisions made by people because they were angry.
3. It does count as murder, yes the person dead might have consented, but what about relatives and loved ones???
4. People could just kill other people, then say they both agreed to a duel, thus getting away with it.
How can people not see anything wrong with what is quite obviously murder. This would just encourage people to murder.
Hell even euthanasia is illegal. Seriously though how can you enjoy killing someone in real life, even if you don't like them.
Imagine:
1. The amount of dead bodies everywhere.
2. Stupid decisions made by people because they were angry.
3. It does count as murder, yes the person dead might have consented, but what about relatives and loved ones???
4. People could just kill other people, then say they both agreed to a duel, thus getting away with it.
How can people not see anything wrong with what is quite obviously murder. This would just encourage people to murder.
Hell even euthanasia is illegal. Seriously though how can you enjoy killing someone in real life, even if you don't like them.
If two consenting adults want to do anything to one another, and both accept the outcome, I say go for it. Provided you can back out at any time, and you both sign something agreeing to the terms, I find it hard to argue with. Then again, that will put me out of a job in the future as a lawyer if people can settle disputes like this?
Even if there's an argument that it'll weed out the stupid or the arrogant or the impulsive...
those people have parents who probably love them and other family, and friends who are maybe less stupid, hell they might even have kids.
Don't encourage them to go out and get shot and break so many hearts!
those people have parents who probably love them and other family, and friends who are maybe less stupid, hell they might even have kids.
Don't encourage them to go out and get shot and break so many hearts!
Murder is the *unlawful* killing of another. If it's not against the law, it isn't murder.C95J said:
Point 1 is completely unfounded, as few would consent to dueling.
Point 2 can be reduced significantly by requiring paperwork and a 3-day waiting period, signed by a judge and all.
Point 3 is irrelevant.
Point 4: See Point 2. We live in a modern society. There would be regulation of some sort for duels that would take place.
Just because euthanasia is illegal doesn't mean that it should be illegal. What a person does with their own body is no business of the State's, and what two consenting people wish to do to each other, so long as the rules are clearly defined, is also no business of the government's.
Also, out of curiosity, how the hell does participating in a duel equate to "enjoy[ing] killing someone in real life"?
I suppose a dueling could work in society if it were handled correctly. The idea is that you couldn't simply challenge someone to a duel and fight the same day as this would easily come down to knee-jerk reactions. Duels could probably be setup like a boxing match, scheduled many months in advance with the option to opt out always available to either party.
There would certainly be many benefits to legalizing this when strictly compared to a current legal system. However, something like this would do very little good for society and only exist to further sensationalize violence/murder.
All told though I could only envision bad things coming from legal dueling and how society would ultimately exploit it.
There would certainly be many benefits to legalizing this when strictly compared to a current legal system. However, something like this would do very little good for society and only exist to further sensationalize violence/murder.
All told though I could only envision bad things coming from legal dueling and how society would ultimately exploit it.
Not up to debating the morals, but I just want to add this. Fun with outdated laws.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1416262/Court-refuses-trial-by-combat.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1416262/Court-refuses-trial-by-combat.html
There will need to a good deal of paperwork, so it can't be just of the moment murders going on can't be claimed as a duel.
There would have to be something like a 7 day waiting period so that maybe with cooler heads might talk it out before the duel.
There would have to be something like a 7 day waiting period so that maybe with cooler heads might talk it out before the duel.
Yes, what else is there to do at dawn on a weekend? Id much prefer to watch a good duel then go and play some games
How the majority have said yes here I will never know. You are basically asking the other person to 'try' and kill you, whilst allowing them the same. Obviously unless both miss, the winner would easily be charged with murder, and the loser will simply be dead. If both miss, they should both be charged with attempted murder.
POints 1 & 4 are tied together, sure there would be regulations, but what's to say people wouldn't just ignore them and just kill. I don't see how point 3 is irrelevant, if you didn't like someone and wanted to kill them, would you really risk leaving everyone who is close to you, relatives, and friends?chadachada123 said:
Also, the reason for the enjoying part is because you wouldn't duel someone if you wouldn't feel bad killing them. You obviously wouldn't like them, and the reason the duel is there in the first place is because you wanted to kill them.
And yes, we do live in a modern society, where duelling has no place in my opinion. It's a part of history now, there is a reason why it isn't around now, lets keep it that way.
Of course not. As a society we should not be encouraging the use of violence to solve problems. Dueling is counter-productive to that goal. It's barbaric and unnecessary, and thus has no place in the modern world. Even if you don't agree with me on that, you'd have to realize that everything involved to ensuring that duels are "lawful" would be ridiculous. They'd have to be heavily monitored by neutral parties to ensure that nobody that is not part of the duel is injured. It'd be such a drain on the legal and medical systems, and for what? So two idiots can try and kill each other in the street? How does this benefit society at all?
I honestly can't see why anybody would want lethal dueling to be legal.
I honestly can't see why anybody would want lethal dueling to be legal.
