Poll: Should Marijuana be Legal or Illegal?
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I know it's all cool and street to give thumbs up to pot, but it's been proven to cause severe mental harm to users, leading to conditions such as schitzophrenia. I honestly don't know that much about the subject for my opinion to have any serious weight, but from what I've heard, it being illegal isn't completely unjustified.
...? No. I don't because I know for a fact how cocaine completely fucks up a person and Marijuana (generally) doesn't.ostro-whiskey said:
The way I see it is, more people die from alcohol poisoning and cancer from smoking, the chances of developing the horrific mental issues are relatively slim, in comparison. And besides, if anyone is stupid enough to use it THAT much, they deserve the brain issues.
Legal, and regulated.
Legal, and regulated.
Marijuana should be legal.
Also, I'm 18 and of voting age for the guy above who made that comment. Not saying you're not accurate, just clarifying.
I like Holland's policy on drugs (all in small regulated doses), but I can understand more conservative drug policies and would prefer to keep harder drugs illegal and I can understand people who would try to legalize everything.
Either way though, marijuana isn't as harmful as cocaine, heroin, or meth. It's less harmful than alcohol or tobacco.
And the dumb psychologically addicted stoner will always be around just like the dumb constantly drunk fratboy will be. Some will win and some will lose.
Also, I'm 18 and of voting age for the guy above who made that comment. Not saying you're not accurate, just clarifying.
I like Holland's policy on drugs (all in small regulated doses), but I can understand more conservative drug policies and would prefer to keep harder drugs illegal and I can understand people who would try to legalize everything.
Either way though, marijuana isn't as harmful as cocaine, heroin, or meth. It's less harmful than alcohol or tobacco.
And the dumb psychologically addicted stoner will always be around just like the dumb constantly drunk fratboy will be. Some will win and some will lose.
I don't use, and probably never will(weak of will, psych addictions, etc), but I'm all for legalization with regulation and taxation. I think all of the points have been stated, really.
-Fewer punks in prison
-Gov. quality
-Money away from drug dealers and into the economy
-Fewer punks in prison
-Gov. quality
-Money away from drug dealers and into the economy
Yes, of course, legalize it. More ways for people to cause accidents on roads, run over pedestrians and kids to get high.
/sarcasm.
"Duuude, relaaax maaaan, it's leeegaaal so it can't be baaad."
"Motorist on THC kills 7 people at a bus stop. More about it at eleven."
/sarcasm.
Yeah, and what happens when someone on drugs gets into a car?HitsWithStyxx said:
"Duuude, relaaax maaaan, it's leeegaaal so it can't be baaad."
"Motorist on THC kills 7 people at a bus stop. More about it at eleven."
I really don't think that making heroin legal will happen anytime within the next million years EVER... I read a book on the stuff once. (not those crazy never-stand-in-the-same-room- with-anyone-who-has-ever-tried-it books neither) It's a terrible thing you know.AndyFromMonday said:
Im for legalizing and then put it to the same restrictions as alcohol.
let me clear 1 thing up: Im from the Netherlands (some may know it as Holland, dont call it that please, thats like saying all americans are New yorkers or such)
Pot is NOT legal here.
Law enforcement just turns a blind eye to small time users but they can still arrest you for it (youll get of with a fine though and just lose your stuff)
As long as you dont cause trouble or nobody complains: you are fine
As a former user myself i have absolutly no problem with people who like to smoke it, but we all know that a lot of people dont like the smell of it. One complaint from your neighbors and the police will (politely) come knocking on your door and tell you to tone it down and take away your plants if you have any. Growing it yourself is still very illegal here!
Smoking pot in public is frowned upon, but most people are liberal about as long as you dont cause trouble or stink up the place to much. There are special shops (we call em 'coffeeshops') where you can buy and smoke. Front-door sales for personal use is something the Police wont bother with because they were told to do so by our own Government. However the backdoor (where the owner of a shop brings in it's supply is still deemed illegal.
Police will come and check these places out if their is trouble but wont hassle its customers or owners (you ever heard of stoners fighting each other? thats stuff for drunken people in bars) If the owner has more than (i think) 500 grams, they will confiscate it and can close you down. but if the local mayor hates it, he can still close those shops down by decree of law, even if the owner abides by the rest of the laws and keeps his/her supply within bounds.
Some doctors can prescribe Pot for cetain medical issues, thats about as legal as it gets.
Police just dont get into it because its to much (paper)work and rather hunt down import- and exporters of drugs in general, also marijuana btw.
Going after the users was deemed pointless and ineffective by the Government and thus they allowed small scale trade for personal use and told the police to not bother with personal users.
But, and here comes the catch: they never modified the law for it.
Sadly, since the Netherlands are now part of the European Union, pressure from France, Germany and a few other countries is up to ban it again. It might become illegal again in a few years, then again it could become completly legit too. It all depends on who will come into power in the next elections who are in July i think.
let me clear 1 thing up: Im from the Netherlands (some may know it as Holland, dont call it that please, thats like saying all americans are New yorkers or such)
Pot is NOT legal here.
Law enforcement just turns a blind eye to small time users but they can still arrest you for it (youll get of with a fine though and just lose your stuff)
As long as you dont cause trouble or nobody complains: you are fine
As a former user myself i have absolutly no problem with people who like to smoke it, but we all know that a lot of people dont like the smell of it. One complaint from your neighbors and the police will (politely) come knocking on your door and tell you to tone it down and take away your plants if you have any. Growing it yourself is still very illegal here!
Smoking pot in public is frowned upon, but most people are liberal about as long as you dont cause trouble or stink up the place to much. There are special shops (we call em 'coffeeshops') where you can buy and smoke. Front-door sales for personal use is something the Police wont bother with because they were told to do so by our own Government. However the backdoor (where the owner of a shop brings in it's supply is still deemed illegal.
Police will come and check these places out if their is trouble but wont hassle its customers or owners (you ever heard of stoners fighting each other? thats stuff for drunken people in bars) If the owner has more than (i think) 500 grams, they will confiscate it and can close you down. but if the local mayor hates it, he can still close those shops down by decree of law, even if the owner abides by the rest of the laws and keeps his/her supply within bounds.
Some doctors can prescribe Pot for cetain medical issues, thats about as legal as it gets.
Police just dont get into it because its to much (paper)work and rather hunt down import- and exporters of drugs in general, also marijuana btw.
Going after the users was deemed pointless and ineffective by the Government and thus they allowed small scale trade for personal use and told the police to not bother with personal users.
But, and here comes the catch: they never modified the law for it.
Sadly, since the Netherlands are now part of the European Union, pressure from France, Germany and a few other countries is up to ban it again. It might become illegal again in a few years, then again it could become completly legit too. It all depends on who will come into power in the next elections who are in July i think.
I completely support this. It's a prime taxing opportunity for the American government. I honestly don't know why we haven't done this already.drizztmainsword said:
The U.S. government is the only organization to have ever come to that conclusion. read my previous post. Or better yet read the link in my post, I'll put it here so you don't have to go searching around for it.Lemon Of Life said:
http://blog.norml.org/2009/07/28/marijuana%E2%80%99s-impact-on-brain-function-%E2%80%9Cminimal%E2%80%9D-new-study-says/
The only issue is that weed has three times as many carcinogens as normal cigarettes, so if it being legal entices more people to use it, which, if we're all honest with ourselves, could very well happen, and then those people get addicted to it (and yes, you can get psycologically addicted to weed the same way you can get psycologically addicted to anything that you do a lot), and then those people all get cancer, because they are three times more likely to get it, and now the medical system has to treat tons more lung cancer patients, and that is a huuuuuuuuge drain on resources. The only debate is whether that drain is offset by the current drain on prisons or holding cells for holding a bunch of minor possessors for a short time.
The only real way to get rid of the money drain is to shoot drug users on sight, which is a permanent and cheap fix, which also stops new users from trying it because they know how dangerous it is (not that drugs aren't already life or death). Then demand for drugs drop, and because there is no demand, supply will have to drop as well, and the drug empires fall, and then BAM: No drug users, no drug dealers, no drain on resources. But the moon will turn into cheese before Congress passes that motion.
Personally I hate drugs. I view drug users as idiots who don't have an ounce of self control. I know that serious abusers have a serious problem, but they dug themselves into that pit. No one is born addicted to heroin or alcohol. People have to make that choice. And I despise them for it. I have friends, good friends, who have everything going for them right now, one runs track and is one of the fastest runners as a sophmore, but she got kicked off the program for alcohol abuse, and the other is fighting marijuana addiction after seeing her magic 4.0 disappear after she lost her ambition. It took 4 months to convince to her that she had a problem, and now she has turned to alcohol, so I guess it's a little personal, but still: drugs ruin lives. Why make that legal?
The only real way to get rid of the money drain is to shoot drug users on sight, which is a permanent and cheap fix, which also stops new users from trying it because they know how dangerous it is (not that drugs aren't already life or death). Then demand for drugs drop, and because there is no demand, supply will have to drop as well, and the drug empires fall, and then BAM: No drug users, no drug dealers, no drain on resources. But the moon will turn into cheese before Congress passes that motion.
Personally I hate drugs. I view drug users as idiots who don't have an ounce of self control. I know that serious abusers have a serious problem, but they dug themselves into that pit. No one is born addicted to heroin or alcohol. People have to make that choice. And I despise them for it. I have friends, good friends, who have everything going for them right now, one runs track and is one of the fastest runners as a sophmore, but she got kicked off the program for alcohol abuse, and the other is fighting marijuana addiction after seeing her magic 4.0 disappear after she lost her ambition. It took 4 months to convince to her that she had a problem, and now she has turned to alcohol, so I guess it's a little personal, but still: drugs ruin lives. Why make that legal?
Yep, it does terrible shit to your organism but that doesn't mean we should not allow people of age(I.E. 18+) to have the ability to buy it. A simple sign saying "this shit will fuck you up bro!" will be enough the same way "this shit will fuck you up" is enough for cigars.Stone Wera said:
If you're a consenting adult then there should be no reason why you should not have the ability to legally buy drugs.
It is proven that marijuana is harmfull in the long term, and unlike alcohol there is not a known safe dosage. So in principal its illegality is based on sound rationale. Therefore the principal is identical to the legalization of other drugs.Plurralbles said:
I agree with you Andy, people should have the right to be fucking idiots. I mean shit, they still let Uwe Boll make movies, why not let junkies do heroin?AndyFromMonday said: