Poll: Should National Service be introduced

[AlmostLikeLife]

Here's a thought.

It was said that National Service can help someone figure their goal in life (or something to that extent). But what about those people who know what they want to do before graduating High School?

I, for example, knew in my third year of High School that I want to be a musician or in some way involved in the music industry. I wouldn't want that to be derailed for two years while I go clean up highways outside of Elizabeth, New Jersey.

 

[The Magical Hobo]

In both instances, you are being forced to fight for a nation you don't want to fight for. I wouldn't fight for anyone or anything, I justify my mooching off Canada by the fact that I pay taxes and contribute to medical research. Also, I'm a member of the NDP party! I helped Linda Duncan gain the only non-Conservative seat in ALL of Alberta![/quote]

Well, depending on how exactly you contribute to medical research, it could very well fit into my definition of national service. My point is that if we build a sense of national pride, people might care about their country. If people began to care about their country, Canada might have respectable voter turnout.

 

[EchetusXe]

No. Punish guilty yobs severely, don't punish all young people- guilty and innocent, yob and nerd alike.

 

[PurpleRain]

how is that a joke???

If I misread your sarcasm excuse me, but I fail to see how Isreal needs White phosphorus to drive a group of humans into the ocean. No they don't need it! They need to stop the fucking war!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Pete

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

Ending world hunger doesn't help the U.S though.

 

[Nmil-ek]

No and todays military is a fucking joke, im not talking about soldiers I know all they do is protect and follow orders im talking about the military's leaders and the government fucking scum and they would never see a moment of support from me with the sham this country has become. Nor do I give a rats ass about the queen she can piss off aswell quite frankly.

 

[Branches]

Why not? It's not as if we'd lose 2 years of our lives, but we'd gain the actual right of saying "Man the government sucks, here's my reasoning why, because they locked me in a temperature controlled room, monitoring library text books"

 

[Bulletinmybrain]

I feel national service is a good idea. Incase of war the population will be ready and experienced. For reference, look at some european countries. Though here I doubt it would work.

Why not? It's not as if we'd lose 2 years of our lives, but we'd gain the actual right of saying "Man the government sucks, here's my reasoning why, because they locked me in a temperature controlled room, monitoring library text books"

Yeah that's like saying slaves should be happy because now they have a good reason to complain about the institution that exploited them. Forced service, even if pleasant, is still slavery.

You're forced not to break laws, you're forced to go to school for ten years.

 

[Firebert]

This seems like it would be a good idea.

 

[Danman1]

Yes. Just as soon as I die they should make everyone enlist

 

[Branches]

Why not? It's not as if we'd lose 2 years of our lives, but we'd gain the actual right of saying "Man the government sucks, here's my reasoning why, because they locked me in a temperature controlled room, monitoring library text books"

Yeah that's like saying slaves should be happy because now they have a good reason to complain about the institution that exploited them. Forced service, even if pleasant, is still slavery.

I just find it both disturbing and frustrating that people like my aunt, who has lived on a trust fund her entire life, who hardly lives in the U.S., have the gall to criticize public officials or military personnel because they "Don't share in a life of freedom" or "Are fascists because they don't allow me to do xxxxx"(XXXX being drugs or stupid shit like piss on soldiers returning from warzones). If everyone works in places that have social ramifications, then we would all understand the many frustrating bureaucracies that we live in.

I'm not advocating the practice, but I see it's potential merits if confined purely to the Social Service and Civic sectors. The Military arm of it is something that is a completely different story.

 

[The Magical Hobo]

First, if you're the type of person who would have a mental breakdown over two years of getting paid to help people, you belong in a mental institution.

Second, I've seen less angst on poetry websites. Learn some respect, grow a pair, and take a step into the real world.

I don't deal well with being controlled.
And I wouldn't have a breakdown. I'd just be pissed. I'm sure you've gotten angry before - should we throw you into a padded room? I doubt you think you deserve such.
If I happen to kill a bunch of people who stole two years of my life, well, that's their fault for not realizing my many flaws and for instituting such a stupid system in the first place.

Furthermore, who the fuck am I supposed to be respecting? You? You don't deserve my respect.
If you want it, if you need the approval and love of strangers over the internet so much, then earn it.

But hey. You could just keep insulting me instead.
Because I care what you think. I do. I really do.

Furthermore: "Angst is a German, Danish, Norwegian and Dutch word for fear or anxiety."
Wikipedia is your friend.

Ok, I think we've gotten a little bit off topic here, so I'd rather you contribute to the thread instead of telling everybody that you're angry for a reason you haven't really elaborated on.

Also, your definition of angst fits perfectly with my argument, I would say that you have "fear or anxiety" about growing up, and dealing with the real world.

 

[PurpleRain]

Also, your definition of angst fits perfectly with my argument, I would say that you have "fear or anxiety" about growing up, and dealing with the real world.

Real world being what now? In your definition.

 

[PersianLlama]

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Do you know what Iran and North Korea are doing? IMPROVING AND EXPANDING ITS MILITARY!

If they wanted they can go to war with sticks and stones, but they can't so they must improve and expand their military, to go to war.

And its not only on the 21st Century its been like this since ever. Money, Greed and Power.

I wouldn't say Iran is doing as much as North Korea for their military, or much at all, but who knows? Ahmedinejad is a crazy fool. I visited two weeks ago, doesn't seem like it, and the average person wants the guy that's not Ahmadinejad to win the elections on friday (Edit: Nobody there wants to go to war). The only problem is, they obviously rig the vote, otherwise Ahmadidumbass would've never won in the first place.

Too bad I'm not there right now, I believe it's 15 (or 16, I forget) to vote.

 

[oliveira8]

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Do you know what Iran and North Korea are doing? IMPROVING AND EXPANDING ITS MILITARY!

If they wanted they can go to war with sticks and stones, but they can't so they must improve and expand their military, to go to war.

And its not only on the 21st Century its been like this since ever. Money, Greed and Power.

I wouldn't say Iran is doing as much as North Korea for their military, or much at all, but who knows? Ahmedinejad is a crazy fool. I visited two weeks ago, doesn't seem like it, and the average person wants the guy that's not Ahmadinejad to win the elections on friday (Edit: Nobody there wants to go to war). The only problem is, they obviously rig the vote, otherwise Ahmadidumbass would've never won in the first place.

Too bad I'm not there right now, I believe it's 15 (or 16, I forget) to vote.

Well, getting nuclear power in which the main goal is to create weapons is a form of expanding and improving your military.

Also? WoW 15 years old to vote? Thats a great way to rally crazy kids that have 0 political knowlodge.(Not like 18 year olds do a better job but you get the idea.)