Poll: Should Paedophiles be allowed a Second Chance?

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Jark212

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No.

I would maybe forgive thieves, and even murderers. But rapists and paedophiles to me are the worst kind of criminal. They should all be shot on sight, or spend the rest of their days rotting in a tiny cell.
I agree, If there released they should be heavily monitored with regular home inspections including computers...

I'm a big advocate of the death penalty.
 

YukoValis

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First of all the term paedophiles does NOT mean rapist. Second it's a title easily given out nowadays so it should be properly examined. It all boils down to consent, something of which our written in stone laws never consider in this case. I'm reminded of the witch trials of old how if the female seduces the man it's her fault, but if the man seduces the woman he is the "victim" of her powers.

Also please note this is not something "which can be cured" It's just like being homosexual, having red hair, or blue eyes. These are things you are born with, and to deny them is to go against your very nature which will eat you up inside. It doesn't mean you should be violent or forceful about it, but it doesn't mean society has the right to punish them without reason.

To me age, sin, and time are all illusions we have created, something of which we should remember and start thinking with our brains and not just trying to think on a mass scale. The point I'm trying to make is if it's something both people want, if it's true love it should be allowed. When any kind of force is involved and the male or female grown up does something against the will of another then they should be punished and stay punished. In cases where both love each other, I think they should come to no harm or punishment.
 

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No. It's pathetic that we have to confine those people separately to avoid them getting hurt. They are sick in the head. The best way to punish them is to do whatever they did to there victim. Don't kill them but if they stab a guy stab them, if they rape someone, rape them. Crime will go down real fast.
 

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hoopyfrood said:
YukoValis said:
To me age, sin, and time are all illusions we have created, something of which we should remember and start thinking with our brains and not just trying to think on a mass scale.
"You can't stop me from doing this five year old in the butt, because age is, like, just an illusion, man. And she said she loves me!"
Not funny. Nor relevant to what I am talking about. I do not mix reality with the illusions (or in your case disillusion) of others.
 

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hoopyfrood said:
Godofgame67 said:
No. It's pathetic that we have to confine those people separately to avoid them getting hurt. They are sick in the head. The best way to punish them is to do whatever they did to there victim. Don't kill them but if they stab a guy stab them, if they rape someone, rape them. Crime will go down real fast.
I'm confused. First you condemn rapists, but then you support rape.
I'm complicated.
 

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hoopyfrood said:
YukoValis said:
Not funny. Nor relevant to what I am talking about. I do not mix reality with the illusions (or in your case disillusion) of others.
You said age doesn't matter and that it's okay if both parties "love" each other.
Yes I said they love each other. Not "love" each other. I mean real love, not just him saying it, and not just a little. There are cases where they both truely love each other, and after being wrongly jailed for so long even get back together when reaching the "right age". That's love, and that's not something which should be denied. Those that do it simply for pleasure, enjoyment, or without love or consent are the ones that should be punished.
 

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hoopyfrood said:
YukoValis said:
Not funny. Nor relevant to what I am talking about. I do not mix reality with the illusions (or in your case disillusion) of others.
You said age doesn't matter and that it's okay if both parties "love" each other.

Godofgame67 said:
I'm complicated.
No, you're just stupid.
Do I get bonus points if I act like I care?
 

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As long as the partner is old enough to understand the consquences of sex and it's consensual, pedophilia is okay by me.
What? How does that even begin make sense?

As long as the prepubescent child is old enough to understand the consequences of sex and give consent, paedophilia is fine with you?

Not only is that an oxymoron, it's a King Kong Oxymorwrong.

How to you expect children who have not gone through puberty to understand the consequences of sex (or even desire it), and to be able to give their proper, witting consent to having sex with an adult?

It's like saying "as long as animals sign a consent form, give a verbal permission, and call you by your first name during sex, then bestiality is fine with you".
Well, to be fair, in the US, and other places, the definition of 'Pedophilia' is pretty damn Broad. By which I mean: If you have sex with someone who is say, 17, you're a pedophile.
 

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GothmogII said:
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I have to say that I agree with the people trying to firebomb him. Pedophiles are not human. Once you have commited pedophilia you are no more than an animal. In fact, I strongly support the death penalty for pedophiles.
Sorry to disappoint you, but pedophiles are humans. And all humans are animals. We are not fallen angels or something, we are just animals - granted, smart ones. We should rather try to heal them. Would you kill someone beause he had a mental illness? I don't think so.
Also one should point out the more obvious flaw in the guy you quoted's argument: You can't 'commit' paedophilia. It's not a god damn action!! It's the state of mind whereby a person is attracted sexually to pre-pubescent children.

-Child molestation- is where a person actually does something based on those attractions as with committing the act of rape on a child etc.
I think that's more a question of Semantics in this day and age. After all, at this point, Pedophilia and Child Molestation are synonomous terms, to those who don't know better.
 

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FallenJellyDoughnut said:
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Once you've paid your debt to society, you're fully entitled to a second chance. That debt, however, should be a debt that in some way ensures that you will not recommit.
Castration?
If castration is a viable method to deal with sex offenders then how about we cut people's hands off who steal?
 

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Buschmaki said:
FallenJellyDoughnut said:
Aardvark said:
Once you've paid your debt to society, you're fully entitled to a second chance. That debt, however, should be a debt that in some way ensures that you will not recommit.
Castration?
If castration is a viable method to deal with sex offenders then how about we cut people's hands off who steal?
Sound good to me!
 

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id say it really depends on the type of pedophile or rapist such as a person that rapes a 9 year old deserves death while a 18 year old that has consensual sex with a 15 year old really shouldn't be even jailed let alone put on a sex offenders list
 

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Absolutely not! To be sexually attracted to children is sick. You get help. Once you act on that attraction, you are evil. These acts are premeditated. It takes careful planning to try to exploit a child without getting caught. The rate of rehabilitation of Pedophiles is almost zero. They should be shot on sight after the first offense.
 

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MasterSqueak said:
Knee-jerk reactions.

They are all over these threads.
What did you expect? This is the escapist after all, seriously, "come for the zero punctuation, stay for the hypocrisy!" should become our slogan.

I've seen more stupidity, hilariously ironic bloodlust and hypocrisy in this thread than I've seen in my entire life.