Poll: Should Paedophiles be allowed a Second Chance?

[teisjm]

He kidnapped and raped 3 children... why would anyoen want him within a hundred miles of their children.

Honestly, if i had children or young siblings, i would seriously consider killing a person like him if he moved in next door. I would be fucking scared every single day, i would never dare leave my kids/siblings out of sight.

He chose to act like a beast, and now he's whiny cause he gets treated like one.

Of all offenders, child-rapists are prolly those i think deserves the most to die slow and painfully.

Thieves are criminals as well, but sometimes a need for the money they steal (though many are just greedy fucks)

Even murderers can sometimes have reasons that adds some empathy to their actions (NOT that it justifies them)

Rapists (whether or not we're talking pedo's or not) are not excusable in any way.
"Uhm, i was like horny and stuff, so i decided to go and screw someones life over to get off"

(i'm talking real rapists here not people who slept with someone who later regret it cause she had a boyfriend, and doesn't wanna admit that she willingly cheated on him)

If they should have any form of second chance, i think there should be made a "secured town" for them, where there was no children or women, only other rapists. That way they're not gonna end up raping anyone besides other rapists.

 

[TheRealCJ]

Once you've paid your debt to society, you're fully entitled to a second chance. That debt, however, should be a debt that in some way ensures that you will not recommit.

Castration?

If castration is a viable method to deal with sex offenders then how about we cut people's hands off who steal?

Nah, because idiots will go "Muslims do that, are we worse than muslims?" Combining ignorance and racism in one neat package.

 

[MrGFunk]

A second chance at what?

It's hard for me to understand Paedophilia. Adults are supposed to nuture and teach children. If a person is not capable of doing this they should have contact with children.

 

[fletch_talon]

Its not something that can be given. Its a form of sexuality, the only thing separating it from homo/bi/heterosexuality is the fact that it involves minors who don't have the intelligence or maturity to consent to sexual acts.

So to "allow" a second chance would be pointless, because as yet there is no way to change our sexuality. Paedophiles will always be attracted to children and as such they need help to resist/supress their urges as opposed to scorn. However if they have acted on their impulses they need to be removed from society completely because they've proven they can't control themselves and/or they lack the level of morality required to coexist in society.

 

[Blood_Lined]

Yes, if they are the type of person that should be tagged as a sex-offender for the rest of his/her life, then DO NOT LET THEM OUT OF JAIL. Prop. 38 needs to be annexed, big-time. A friend of mine went to prison for 3 years and is still labeled as a sex offender, and here's the kicker, he was and still is, here's the magic word: INNOCENT.

 

[Max-Vader]

Sorry to disappoint you, but pedophiles are humans. And all humans are animals. We are not fallen angels or something, we are just animals - granted, smart ones.

Humans aren't animals.

Yes, they are. Our ancestors were ape-like creatures. They were animals, we are animals.

 

[titanium turtle]

They should be given a second chance after serving their time. Unless they are have been getting away with it for so long or their crimes were particularly disturbing, in which case the death penalty.

Either:
a) Punish them with jail, treat them for their urges and then release them after a reasonable amount of time.
or.
b) Kill them.

Some people will never be rehabilitated, however those that have admitted and accepted what they have done, have been punished and undergone a treatment programme to help them control their urges should be allowed to live a normal life. Harassing them isn't going to make them less likely to re-offend.

I would say- arrest them- chemically castrate them when they are asleep- then let them out after- because surely then they cannot re-offend

 

[RavingLibDem]

*snip*

First of all I will give you some advice so you fit in here. Do not call people trolls simply because they state something you do not agree with. It makes you look like a total fuckwit.
Now sorry I do not live in merry old jack the ripper, knife crime capital england but just because your cops are totally fucking useless does not mean I am wrong. Especially on the drunk issue. Men are always held to blame even though both parties are intoxicated.

*snip*

Yeah this point has been brought up before so I will tell you what I told the others.
Of course I would not be happy with it and yes, I would try to fight it as much as possible. However if I were unable to prove my innocence then I would have no choice but to accept it and at least I would feel slightly better knowing that the people of my town are safer than other places which let criminals go free.

Edit: Oh and its soo nice you went and slipped in more pathetic and uncalled for insults. Douchebag behaviour dude.

Lets get the termanologies correct these are meant to be intellectual forum's no?

*cough* This place has been described multiple times as 4chan with grammar. Also this is meant to be a gaming forum soo.

I am not calling you a troll because you disagree with me, I'm calling you a troll because you make massively offensive assertionbs with little or no evidence or argument - for instance, suggesting that women regularly get men wrongly conviceted of rape is just wrong, there are isolated cases when this is true, however in court if a woman is proven to be drunk, or wearing 'provocative clothing' they are often deemed to have brought it on themselves, or at least cast enough doubt over whether it was consensual or not. If you want to disagree please try and at least produce a coherent argument - or explain the 2% conviction rate for rape, realistically far below the amount actually guilty.

Also, how does having knife crime affect paedophilia? the police who deal with both issues will be radically different, and although the MET for instance have had some problems recently they are considered to be one of the fairest and least corrupt police forces in the world. Once again your wrong if you call us the knife capital of the world, and a more accurate thing to look at is violent crime in any case.

 

[Soxafloppin]

I Think pedophiles should be hung, but thats jusy my opinion - which i am intitled too.

 

[Del-Toro]

No.

I would maybe forgive thieves, and even murderers. But rapists and paedophiles to me are the worst kind of criminal. They should all be shot on sight, or spend the rest of their days rotting in a tiny cell.

Agreed, especially since it's mental and therefore can't be prison showered out of them.

 

[Del-Toro]

Yes, if they are the type of person that should be tagged as a sex-offender for the rest of his/her life, then DO NOT LET THEM OUT OF JAIL. Prop. 38 needs to be annexed, big-time. A friend of mine went to prison for 3 years and is still labeled as a sex offender, and here's the kicker, he was and still is, here's the magic word: INNOCENT.

There is no such thing as innocence, just varying levels of guilt.

 

[Blood_Lined]

Yes, if they are the type of person that should be tagged as a sex-offender for the rest of his/her life, then DO NOT LET THEM OUT OF JAIL. Prop. 38 needs to be annexed, big-time. A friend of mine went to prison for 3 years and is still labeled as a sex offender, and here's the kicker, he was and still is, here's the magic word: INNOCENT.

There is no such thing as innocence, just varying levels of guilt.

That does not make any sense, think if the police walk up to your house one day and say that you are guilty of some crime, and you had nothing to do with that...assault on main street, or that mugging in the park for example. Well, like you said there is no such thing as being innocent, so I guess that you are guilty then, even though there is no forensic evidence, and it's an election year for the judge. Nope! You're guilty, because EVERYONE is, at least a little bit, no matter what, yay, guess what? that means that you are going to jail now. Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense.

 

[Blood_Lined]

Yes, if they are the type of person that should be tagged as a sex-offender for the rest of his/her life, then DO NOT LET THEM OUT OF JAIL. Prop. 38 needs to be annexed, big-time. A friend of mine went to prison for 3 years and is still labeled as a sex offender, and here's the kicker, he was and still is, here's the magic word: INNOCENT.

There is no such thing as innocence, just varying levels of guilt.

That does not make any sense, think if the police walk up to your house one day and say that you are guilty of some crime, and you had nothing to do with that...assault on main street, or that mugging in the park for example. Well, like you said there is no such thing as being innocent, so I guess that you are guilty then, even though there is no forensic evidence, and it's an election year for the judge. Nope! You're guilty, because EVERYONE is, at least a little bit, no matter what, yay, guess what? that means that you are going to jail now. Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense.

 

[Vuljatar]

Actual pedophiles deserve to be hounded for the rest of their lives. Unfortunately, in a great many places the definition of pedophilia is so stupidly broad and the so-called justice system so eager to punish that many people who are innocent of any wrongdoing get lumped in with dangerous sexual predators.

 

[Kajin]

What worries me is that, at the time of this post, the second chance option has the most votes.

 

[NeutralMunchHotel]

What worries me is that, at the time of this post, the second chance option has the most votes.

Why though? It's people's opinions, and if they believe that they should get second chances then that's what they believe. I too am on the side of the second chancers. I believe that life in prison is reserved for murderers (take a life, take a life) and that paedophiles deserve help. In all likelihood they weren't given enough help in the first place, and that's what led them to do what they did.

 

[skywalkerlion]

Everyone should be given a second chance on their first offense (meaning a possible serial killer may have a second chance after his fist murder after doing his time and appologizing, and changing). After that, they either die or live life in prison (Which IMO, prison isn't bad enough)

 

[Nomad]

I would maybe forgive thieves, and even murderers. But rapists and paedophiles to me are the worst kind of criminal.

... How is ruining someone's life worse than ending it? Hell, if the ruined life is worse than death, then the victims can always kill themselves and achieve the same effect. But the thing is that most victims don't, which means they prefer a screwed-up life over no life at all. At least then they can keep on living. Once you're dead, you really can't decide to move on past your murder. When you're dead, you're dead for good.