Poll: Should Paedophiles be allowed a Second Chance?

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Housebroken Lunatic

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Gilbert Munch said:
It's a sad, but true fact. The difference is there are those that can handle these desires and those that can't.
Indeed, and I for one have huge sympathies for paedophiles who haven't molested children. I feel pretty sorry for them in the way that they have a sexual orientation (meaning it's just like being heterosexual or homosexual) which society can't afford to permit ever happening, due to the fact that children can't be expected to make a decision of having sex (just like children can't be expected to make the decision of taking a loan at the bank or starting a business).

It's not their fault for being what they are, they have no more power over it than we have over our own sexual orientation. And while I certainly agree that steps need to be taken with those paedophiles who goes fourth and do molest children, I have a hard time seeing them as "monsters" that should automatically be put to death. Any steps taken against their sexual orientation should be prioritizing making society safer first and foremost, and not function as "punishment" for a person who are afflicted with something they can't even control.
 

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Dragonblade146 said:
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Dragonblade146 said:
There is a reason why Rape and Peddophilia is a haeonous crime.
Its unforgivable.
Incidentally, you do know paedophilia is perfectly legal? Absolutely no law against it at all. You can be sexually attracted to who/whatever you want and the law won't touch you.

Now, ACTING on those urges and molesting kids - THAT'S illegal.
Yes I do.
I'm pretty sure the topic is on those who do...
See, I'm not convinced you DO know it's legal.
My first clue: You described paedophilia as a heinous crime.
Don't really need a second clue.

It's a very important distinction to make.
 

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I'm not sure if anyone else thought of this, but when the guys in jail heard he was a child molester.... you probably need a boxing glove to fist his asshole now.
Who would want to go back for that?

But a little more on topic; let's have a good solution here:
Kill half, let the other stay on parole type thing for fifteen years like he is.
 

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Aardvark said:
Once you've paid your debt to society, you're fully entitled to a second chance. That debt, however, should be a debt that in some way ensures that you will not recommit.
Castration?
 

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andrat said:
I'm not sure if anyone else thought of this, but when the guys in jail heard he was a child molester.... you probably need a boxing glove to fist his asshole now.
Who would want to go back for that?

But a little more on topic; let's have a good solution here:
Kill half, let the other stay on parole type thing for fifteen years like he is.
And how do you decide which half gets what?
 

andrat

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Fauxity said:
andrat said:
I'm not sure if anyone else thought of this, but when the guys in jail heard he was a child molester.... you probably need a boxing glove to fist his asshole now.
Who would want to go back for that?

But a little more on topic; let's have a good solution here:
Kill half, let the other stay on parole type thing for fifteen years like he is.
And how do you decide which half gets what?
You just randomly pick half. Flip a coin, pick a number, etc.
Put them in front of a firing squad, hang 'em, electric chair, whatever floats your boat.
 

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andrat said:
Fauxity said:
andrat said:
I'm not sure if anyone else thought of this, but when the guys in jail heard he was a child molester.... you probably need a boxing glove to fist his asshole now.
Who would want to go back for that?

But a little more on topic; let's have a good solution here:
Kill half, let the other stay on parole type thing for fifteen years like he is.
And how do you decide which half gets what?
You just randomly pick half. Flip a coin, pick a number, etc.
Put them in front of a firing squad, hang 'em, electric chair, whatever floats your boat.
I like you.
 

Housebroken Lunatic

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JimmyBassatti said:
I don't get why everyone thinks that rape and moleastion are the worst things in the world...
This is a pretty easy question to answer:

Basically, rape and child molestation are considered the worst things in the world because most people can't begin to relate to anyone committing these crimes. Their imagination just doesn't stretch that far in the way that they could imagine themselves raping someone or molesting a child. Mainly because said crimes are often an indication on a mental disorder or abnormality of the perpetrator, which most people doesn't suffer from.

This is also an explaination why most people don't consider murder as being just as bad as rape or childe molestation, because, quite frankly, most of us can see ourselves killing another human being in cold blood provided that there is a viable reason to do it according to our own subjective morals. Hence, a murderer is easier to relate to for most people, but a rapist or a child molester isn't quite as easy to relate to.
 

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Fauxity said:
andrat said:
Fauxity said:
andrat said:
I'm not sure if anyone else thought of this, but when the guys in jail heard he was a child molester.... you probably need a boxing glove to fist his asshole now.
Who would want to go back for that?

But a little more on topic; let's have a good solution here:
Kill half, let the other stay on parole type thing for fifteen years like he is.
And how do you decide which half gets what?
You just randomly pick half. Flip a coin, pick a number, etc.
Put them in front of a firing squad, hang 'em, electric chair, whatever floats your boat.
I like you.
I try ^_^
 

Housebroken Lunatic

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andrat said:
You just randomly pick half. Flip a coin, pick a number, etc.
Put them in front of a firing squad, hang 'em, electric chair, whatever floats your boat.
That has to be one of the most stupid and inconsistent ideas I've heard today...
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
andrat said:
You just randomly pick half. Flip a coin, pick a number, etc.
Put them in front of a firing squad, hang 'em, electric chair, whatever floats your boat.
That has to be one of the most stupid and inconsistent ideas I've heard today...
In my defense, it's 7am. I am not a morning person.
 

Fauxity

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
andrat said:
You just randomly pick half. Flip a coin, pick a number, etc.
Put them in front of a firing squad, hang 'em, electric chair, whatever floats your boat.
That has to be one of the most stupid and inconsistent ideas I've heard today...
I think Andrat may be joking. Just a bit.

Edited for me being a dick.
 

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In my opinion, it's hard to give them a second chance; The crime of child molestation is unforgivable and simply appalling, but more importantly that person will never be trusted again. How can you give somebody a second chance if you can't trust them? It's not possible. Especially when children are the ones in jeopardy if they should choose to break that trust. If they want to rejoin society they need to be willing to sacrifice most of their privacy to gain even a smidgen of trust back, but I doubt any family will ever be comfortable with one of them living in their neighborhood. I do believe they are deserving of redemption, but I can't think of any way they could repair the damage they've done to allow that to happen.

Regarding the vigilantism towards pedophiles, I find that disgusting. They are making them out to be monsters, but they are still human beings. They may deserve to be hated for their actions, but they don't deserve harassment or harm.
 

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Avykins said:
They have not paid their debt. A few years in prison does not earn you a second chance. Not until all your victims forgive you.
I know that's a general statement, but how do you feel that applies to the case of Roman Polanski?

He buggered a 13 year old, spent 42 days in prison and then fled the US and has avoided any country that will extradite him, but his victim has since forgiven him.

Does he get a second chance since all is forgiven, despite being a fugitive for 32 years?
 

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EchetusXe said:
Your saying that your own testicles are a privilege and not a right?
OK Lemme get this outta the way.
That made me laugh very.. very... hard.
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OK here's my idea.

Either get them to agree to chemical castration, or keep them in jail.

BUT at annual integers, do a psyche test on them and measure their response to pictures or children actors or something. If arousal appears to happen, leave em in jail and attempt to rehabilitate them some more. Do this for entire sentence, if they are not rehabilitated in the time of the sentence get the chems and go crazy consent or not.

If of course it's a short sentence, add 5 years of annual psyche evals to look for mental change. but of course make it some sort of parole if they are still busted mentally for drop the big all chem bomb on them (not literaly)


Oh and repeat offenders are executed via nipple shocking and butt immolating.

Sounds fair to me.
 

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JimmyBassatti said:
I see that, and I understand what your saying, but I wish people would shut the fuck up about rape being "THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD!". I realize it's "bad", but there are worse things someone can do. And, as I said, what if an 18 year old and a 17 year old?
Well in my country, the legal age of conscent for sex is 15, so an 18 year old could have sex with a 15 year old if they wanted to.

I for one consider this to be pretty screwed up, due to the fact that when 15 year old girls do get raped, they are treated as if they had the same capable mind of an adult woman, which they clearly don't. This might seem condescending to some posters here but a 15 year old shouldn't be expected to make such decisions, and frankly, I think that the legal age of conscent should be increased to at least 18 years old. If you're not old enough to own a car, take a major bankloan or start your own business, then you are certainly not old enough to decide for yourself whether you should be having sex or not. It's so hypocritical that it is ridiculous...