Poll: Should Parents have the right to force there religion on there kids ?

[Zefar]

If people lack the right to teach religion to the next generation(when I say "religion" I am including atheism and agnosticism), then they lack the right to teach them morality or anything beyond the most basic facts. Civilization would start over with every generation because you can't build on the previous generations ideas and beliefs if you don't know exactly what they wear.

But Atheism isn't a religion. Neither is agnosticism. They are just a lack of belief in a God or Gods.
They can't be a religion. Please just accept this and never try to include it into Religion no matter how much you want to.
All you would really teach in "Atheism" is, "We believe there is no God because he lacks the evidence to prove himself".
That's all there is to Atheism.

As for rules and morals. Please don't even start with that "Without religion you can't have morals" bullshit. People had morals before religion came up. People will ALWAYS have morals because when you rule an empire you need laws. You don't want the people to have the right to kill you and take your place after all.
Even our early ancestors took care of each other. In animal form and that is how we humans survived. We stayed together.

But now that we already have some decent laws we can just follow them as a moral guiding. So moral guiding isn't going to be a problem.


As for parents. No they should not have the right to force their religion on kids. They believe in anything that is said to them. It will also put a huge pressure on kids where they learn that they will burn in hell, for various things. Not really the nicest things to say to a kid. Like "Hey Timmy, you'll burn in hell if you sin"

 

[Sewblon]

If people lack the right to teach religion to the next generation(when I say "religion" I am including atheism and agnosticism), then they lack the right to teach them morality or anything beyond the most basic facts. Civilization would start over with every generation because you can't build on the previous generations ideas and beliefs if you don't know exactly what they wear.

But Atheism isn't a religion. Neither is agnosticism. They are just a lack of belief in a God or Gods.
They can't be a religion. Please just accept this and never try to include it into Religion no matter how much you want to.
All you would really teach in "Atheism" is, "We believe there is no God because he lacks the evidence to prove himself".
That's all there is to Atheism.

As for rules and morals. Please don't even start with that "Without religion you can't have morals" bullshit. People had morals before religion came up. People will ALWAYS have morals because when you rule an empire you need laws. You don't want the people to have the right to kill you and take your place after all.
Even our early ancestors took care of each other. In animal form and that is how we humans survived. We stayed together.

But now that we already have some decent laws we can just follow them as a moral guiding. So moral guiding isn't going to be a problem.


As for parents. No they should not have the right to force their religion on kids. They believe in anything that is said to them. It will also put a huge pressure on kids where they learn that they will burn in hell, for various things. Not really the nicest things to say to a kid. Like "Hey Timmy, you'll burn in hell if you sin"

I admit that my use of the term "religion" is lax, but for the purposes of this thread I meant it as "what ever your stance on spirituality is." About people having morals before religion existed, we aren't exactly sure when religion came into being or what people did for survival reasons rather than for moral reasons so you can't be sure of that. Government is intrinsically evil, ergo the laws they make are not a solid basis for morality, nor will they ever be. Claiming that "You'll burn in hell if you sin" is basically saying "after you die, you will get what you deserve" which is not necessarily true but I have heard of worse ideas to base your life around. Free speech is also an issue if you are talking about using the law to enforce you position. If you can't teach what you believe to your own children who can you teach it to?

 

[asteroth21nox]

I believe the child should be educated about religion and given choice by their parents and let them decide.

 

[ssgt splatter]

NO!!! I'm 19 fucking years old and my dad still makes me go to church. When I was 9 I didn't have a choice.

 

[DrDeath3191]

They should have the right to raise their children as they see fit. If the child doesn't agree with their parent's ideology, however, they shouldn't be punished for it.

 

[Robert632]

what if part of the religeon made people have to force there kids into it or they'd go to whatever place that is hell to them?

 

[randomrob]

well i think that you should be able to raise your child to a religion, but if the child then decides to shun that religion, then it's their choice and the parents should respect that.

Also OP:
DON'T START RELIGION THREADS!!!!!

 

[Gutterslime]

I think parents do have the right to try and force religion on their kids, just as kids have the right to think its fucking retarded and if parents are forcing their religion down their throats then the kids are going to either follow blindly much like I'm sure the parents did when their parents forced religion onto them, or they will rebel and come to the realization that all religions are pretty much based around the same general archetype

 

[JoshGod]

no but it happens so often.

 

[Kollega]

Captain Obvious says FUCK NO.

 

[Flamezdudes]

NO!!! I'm 19 fucking years old and my dad still makes me go to church. When I was 9 I didn't have a choice.

You serious? You're even an adult now and your Dad still makes you? Stand up for yourself for fuck sake if you don't want to go. I'm bludy 14 years ago, turn Athiest last year and haven't been to Church in months.

 

[Eldarion]

well, yeah to a degree. they should be able to teach them what they believe and make them go to church etc.
i mean, if we stop religious people from teaching their kids about their faith then we'd have to stop atheist parents teaching their kids about evolution and how god doesn't exist.

The question isn't "do you have the right to teach?"

Its "Do you have the right to force your beliefs on your child even if the child believes something else?"

The answer to the question actually being asked is, FUCK NO.

 

[Klepa]

I'm an atheist, and while I'd like it if religion would vanish from the earth..

I think parents should be allowed to raise their kids the way they want to. It's their right, and also their responsibility.
I'd probably raise my fictional kids as neither atheist or theists. Let the little runts figure that one out themselves. It's really not that important anyway.

 

[Rensenhito]

well, yeah to a degree. they should be able to teach them what they believe and make them go to church etc.
i mean, if we stop religious people from teaching their kids about their faith then we'd have to stop atheist parents teaching their kids about evolution and how god doesn't exist.

Except that, in you theists' own words, "belief in God does not require proof." So really, people shouldn't make kids go to church. They should allow them to choose whether or not they want to believe in God. Evolution is a scientific theory, not a religion; religion is a belief, not a scientific theory. Evolution theory doesn't necessarily deny the existence of God, it just makes a universe where God exists much less likely. But that's never stopped religion before, so why should it have any effect now?
If you're a true believer, the science of evolution and the studies and conclusions thereof should have no bearing whatsoever on your faith. That's my main message.

 

[Adventurer2626]

I believe you should show them your religion and offer it as an option to them but encourage them to make an informed decision when they're ready. I'd tell my child, "If you don't kill people, steal, or otherwise break the law then I'll be happy with whatever religion you choose."

 

[nothinghere]

They would only be believers because they knew of nothing else to believe.

The definition of the act of believing is that they are confident in the truth, existince, or reliability of something and if you forced your religion on your child then any other outward influence would easily crush their belief and leave them confused and afraid. Why would you even think about doing this

Altering such a young mind and forever influencing it and limiting its choices just to promote your religion seems horrible to me.

 

[Amphoteric]

A child's mind is purposly designed by nature to accept and believe EVERYTHING that it is told. It is child abuse to force your views on a vunerable and impressionable human. Let them make up their own mind after presenting all the evidence for God and all the religions. You wouldn't force your political views on your child so why force religious views. Why not teach children things that are actually useful instead of nonsense from 2000 years ago.