well now. that was very insightful. here have an internet.xXSnowyXx said:You were their fault so they were obligated to raise you and pay for you along the way - That doesn't mean you owe them.
well now. that was very insightful. here have an internet.xXSnowyXx said:You were their fault so they were obligated to raise you and pay for you along the way - That doesn't mean you owe them.
Quite an assumption. I'm twenty, study biology (40 hours/week) and I work evening shifts four nights per week (20 - 25 hours/week). In my holidays, I work at least three/four weeks full-time. Only think you're right about is me still living at home, but only because living on my own would be impossible because rooms in/near Utrecht (where my university's located) cost in the region of 400-500 euros or more. Quite hard for a student to afford that.Jewrean said:SNIP
I'm guessing that either your still a kid living at home or you've never done a hard day of work with your Mum / Dad in your life.
This is different from what I mentioned about having to hand in your own money.Doing work for the family isn't child labour. I've had to do gardening, build brick walls, fix wiring, dig trenches for pipes, build furniture, move furniture, etc all in the name of the family. I sure as hell didn't want to do it but I still did it for the family. That isn't child labour.
I'd say this is child labour, or at least disgusting behaviour.As for paying money to your family from your job? See previous point.
Except that it does. If parents start using emotional blackmailing to make you do stuff, they've practically failed as a parent.Doesn't matter if it's blackmail or not.
If they need my salary to survive, or rather: some teen's salary (I'm not sure if I'm a good example here, being (technically) an adult), ie: a hundred euro's per month max to survive, they have other issues. It's not hard to make enough money to be able to sustain yourself when working full-time. If you can't, you're probably on grant. There's no reason to take you child's money.If your folks need it to live then you give it to them.
I do, but I think it's a very American idea that owing them is always about money.You DO owe them.
Children don't belong to the parent. They aren't property, they aren't pets, they aren't free labourers. A parent shouldn't have power over the children. A child should respect their parents, and a parent is responsible for their child. "Do as I say and not as I do" is complete bullshit, and that's effectively what you're arguing. It's not good behaviour for the parents to take things, but it's automatically excusable simply because they're doing it to their kids.Sentox6 said:No. I won't put it aside, and you don't get to conveniently write it off as "antiquated" for the sake of reshaping the discussion to your preferences. Certainly not without providing a convincing reason for doing so.Sporky111 said:Putting aside the antiquated "power over your children" idea, why should a parent have a right to whatever their child has? He worked for that money, he earned it. They don't automatically get a claim to it simply on the merit of being his parents.
I hope you're not assuming I'm American? See... we all make assumptions.Alleged_Alec said:I do, but I think it's a very American idea that owing them is always about money.