And what would you do with these children then smart guy? Orphanages? Social homes? Pack them off to a government fat camp, one of the most humiliating places on the entire goddamn planet. Or maybe just hold them somewhere until the parents change their ways, like a fat jail kinda thing (hey, while your at it, why not make obesity a crime, i mean you've got to have some justification for taking these kids. Yeah, make this a crime right up there with theft and murder and rape a molestation, yeah that sounds brilliant).666Chaos said:
And once you've answered that question, how do you figure you will pay for all this? What facilities, are there already. And as for the new ones you will need, where would you build them? I imagine that would be a great place to live.
And who would be the ones ratting these parents out? Neighbors, teachers, friend, relatives? You want everybody looking over their shoulders, or maybe just have a yearly inspection, people coming over to your house to weight and measure your kids, just to make sure they're up to snuff. If they're not, they just go in the van waiting on the street i suppose. Can you even begin to fathom the kind of things people would do to keep their kids from being taken away from them? Both to the workers and to the kids?
And finally, there has been a lot said about the parents, but what about the children. How would you like to explain to a crying lonely scared child that you are taking them away from their parents, who despite obviously making some mistakes, the child still loves. And how do you think they would explain this to their friends and relatives. Would they change schools, or even towns, and lose all their friends, or just let them keep going to the same school where other kids can makes fun of them and their parents. Do you actually think that these children will EVER live an experience that traumatizing down? And what about foster care workers, how do you think they would answer question like "Can i go home now" or "Where is mommy and daddy". But i bet you won't be working there, so it just becomes someone else job.
Will you pay for the rehabilitation it will take, the therapy some will inevitably need or will you just leave them alone. i mean your duty is done, so why does it matter what happens to them, we should just be thanking god that there is just one less fat kid running around, making the world a safer place for all of us.
Listen, obesity is a problem, i get that, i get that in spades. Yes there are some head shaking examples, yes there are situations where you wish you could do something, but you know what, you can't. These are other people who are not harming you, just trying to get by. For the most part, they just want to be left alone, and you people are just trying to peek through the key hole because you can't resist your fix, that feeling that you are somehow superior in one respect or another. Yes, there is a mildly, MILDLY, valid argument for this being a kind of abuse, but more often than not it is a case of people just not knowing what to do. So, i would go for a program to stop obesity, both in schools and extending to the home. I am even in favor of mandatory health check ups that would lead to some kind of action begin taken. But, taking a child out of the arms of their parent, unless that parent is a sexually or physically abusing them (and i mean beatings, not spanking or fattening), is purely and utterly evil. It is the act of a depraved, sick minded individual who has either no respect for the sacred bond that exists between parent and child, or it is someone who has his or her head shoved so far up their ass that they can see daylight. Or, as more often the case is, they just think it is the job of someone else, with them standing on the sidelines with a smug satisfied grin pasted on their sanctimonious faces.
As i said, programs initiated both in schools and at home i think would be a good idea. The simple fact of the matter is, in the society in which we live, obesity is a growing concern. Inaction, no. Taking kids away, no. Affirmative, positive action, yes. Yes, extreme cases are bad and make you feel bad, but for the result to be a system where parents could lose their children, and children could lose their parents, and all of the emotional trauma that comes with that, that would be a god damn tragedy.
Oh, and another thing, just a piece of advice, never tell a parent, who has put up with hours of crying, of whining, of changing, of cleaning, of cooking, and who still manages to love their child unconditionally, never tell that parent that you could be a better parent to their child than them, especially if you don't have kids yourself, it WILL NEVER end well. Our children are one of the few things on this planet that most normal, everyday human beings are willing to risk thier lives for, and even kill over, without mercy and without regret. Do not fuck with other people's children.
