Poll: Should punishment be the same as the crime?
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It'll be a little difficult though, I mean, if someone rapes a girl, and then they have to get raped, then the person who raped them would have to get raped, and it would be a never ending cycle.
And hard to find someone who would rape someone else in the first place, but in theory it's not a bad idea.
And hard to find someone who would rape someone else in the first place, but in theory it's not a bad idea.
No. Not least because in a lot of cases--like the rape example--it would violate the Eighth Amendment (assuming you're in the US):
(It wasn't a new idea even then, incidentally--the English Bill of Rights from 1689 says the same thing, with almost identical wording.)
Also, what if someone steals something? Like a hobo robs a grocery store? How would you make that punishment even? By stealing something from the hobo? What could you steal from them.
It seems like there was no thought put into this idea.
It seems like there was no thought put into this idea.
Uhh, no? Capital punishment is murder, only it's legally acceptable.
Although there are certain crimes that have punishments that are much too severe. For example, a Minnesota man was fined $1.92 million for songs he illegally downloaded ($80,000 per song). Personally, I think it's disgusting that record companies (as well as others) can get away with these kinds of penalties. Their goal is to make an example of certain people, which is just fucking disgusting.
I'm not saying there shouldn't be penalties for those caught, but $80,000 for downloading one song is preposterous.
Although there are certain crimes that have punishments that are much too severe. For example, a Minnesota man was fined $1.92 million for songs he illegally downloaded ($80,000 per song). Personally, I think it's disgusting that record companies (as well as others) can get away with these kinds of penalties. Their goal is to make an example of certain people, which is just fucking disgusting.
I'm not saying there shouldn't be penalties for those caught, but $80,000 for downloading one song is preposterous.
Like several above, I'll say "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
Really, just punish to the extent they won't do it again and are deterred. If the punishment does its job, anything more will no longer meets the necessary part of necessary evil. So basically, I'm with Internet Kraken here.
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Really, just punish to the extent they won't do it again and are deterred. If the punishment does its job, anything more will no longer meets the necessary part of necessary evil. So basically, I'm with Internet Kraken here.
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Was Jesus even in the old testament?Glefistus said:
I don't really want to get into the whole thing, but basically no, ok I am going to get into it, firstly there's alot of crimes which would be hard to make and equivilent of, 2) apart from descention to the criminals level of society, which is what this would be, it promotes more violence than it discourages, looking at history, governments with strict "justice" systems, end up with the general population suffering, this often forces people to commit crimes to survive, and in most cases revolution eventually insues. 3) Lets face it people are corrupt, and chances are officials will abuse their power, the death penalty is never a good thing, and such abuse of power will lead to attributing point 2. 4) purely from a psycological point of view, research and studies, and common sense, suggests that people commit crimes for a REASON...for example many murders are pushed by significant events in their life to them commiting the crime, social convention drilled into peoples mind from birth stops you from simply doing it "because they are evil", its all about cause and effect, until we can understand the human mind fully and stop these triggers, no full blame, 100% blame, can be put on 1 individual, no 100% responsibility, ok its a bit off topic....but put in local terms, by crime by punishment, how would you deal with a starving man stealing bread? Cause the man is starving, without food, small money, that probably won't hurt anyone, is he responsible for human nature to survive? - Effect he steals the food to survive...and is punished by what? Confiscating somethinh he has? His clothes? Making him starve to death?
Cause and effect......crinal systems in many civilised countries aren't really fair in my oppinion anyway.....
Cause and effect......crinal systems in many civilised countries aren't really fair in my oppinion anyway.....
Rape a Rappist is wrong, completly destroy his life and couse him a severe mental traume, then leaving him crying where no one listenes or cares is better, but still, is just punishment.
Punishment is just a part of a true rehabilitation, if you hit someone and then he gets hit too nothing changes, if we find out why he hitted you, that's way better, that's how we could help him and help society.
Because yes, a rappist needs help too.
Punishment is just a part of a true rehabilitation, if you hit someone and then he gets hit too nothing changes, if we find out why he hitted you, that's way better, that's how we could help him and help society.
Because yes, a rappist needs help too.
I say no. The punishment should be more than the crime. J-walking? Death Sentence. Littering? Death Sentence. Public Nudity? Death Sentence.
