Poll: Should there be a black bond?

[Logan Westbrook]

Short answer, no.

Long answer, no, because it would completely contradict the last oh so many films. James Bond suddenly transformed into a black guy.

As opposed to M suddenly transformed into a woman, which is clearly fine.

 

[Fightbulb]

No. It would not be OK. Bond is white. Bond is British. Bond drinks. Bond is a womanizer. His name is James Bond. THESE THINGS CAN NOT BE CHANGED! This is what makes Bond Bond. He is a stereoptypical mid-20th century Male Brit, created by Ian Fleming. Hell, I'm sure Fleming is rolling in his grave due to Daniel Craig's lackluster work. Really though, why would you do this? What would it accomplish. Political Correctness? What does that mean then? That being black is politically correct, but being white isn't? Nice. No, it isn't ok.
NOTE: I am not yelling at the creator of this post. I am yelling at those that say it would be ok. That have no boundaries for their P.C. crusade.

I agree with this.

Well, apart from the thing about Daniel Craig. Casino Royale has so far been the only Bond movie that didn't make me cringe every few minutes because of the constant and unrelenting horrible pun-making.

 

[KSarty]

No, because James Bond is a white British guy. If you're going to throw away the actual establishment of the character, then why not go for a female Bond? Or an Indian Bond?

 

[J-Man]

Short answer, no.

Long answer, no, because it would completely contradict the last oh so many films. James Bond suddenly transformed into a black guy.

As opposed to M suddenly transformed into a woman, which is clearly fine.

So true.

 

[Pyronoid]

Short answer, no.

Long answer, no, because it would completely contradict the last oh so many films. James Bond suddenly transformed into a black guy.

As opposed to M suddenly transformed into a woman, which is clearly fine.

Fair point.

Will Smith 4 Bond, lol.

 

[KSarty]

Short answer, no.

Long answer, no, because it would completely contradict the last oh so many films. James Bond suddenly transformed into a black guy.

As opposed to M suddenly transformed into a woman, which is clearly fine.

So true.

Not quite. M is a code name, James Bond is the actual character.

 

[KarmicToast]

I am all for having a black James Bond. But why stop there? I think that Oliver Stone should have cast Denzel Washington to play the lead in W. recently, and that The Jonas Brothers should have starred in Soul Men. I call for a remake of the Chappelle Show starring Christopher Walkin, Ghostbusters 3 should be Cedric the Entertainer, Samuel Jackson, Ving Rhames, and Don Cheadle. Also, Mos Def should play Ford Prefect in the Hitchhiker's movie...oh wait...shit...

 

[Quinn Davis]

I guess it would be fine, as long as they didn't BLACK HIM OUT. If you know what I mean.

Like Blade, or XXX or anything like that, with lots of ebonics and references to his blackness. THAT would ruin it. And, unfortunately, Hollywood tends to do this when a lead action movie character is black.

 

[Burld]

No. It would not be OK. Bond is white. Bond is British. Bond drinks. Bond is a womanizer. His name is James Bond. THESE THINGS CAN NOT BE CHANGED! This is what makes Bond Bond. He is a stereoptypical mid-20th century Male Brit, created by Ian Fleming.

Stereotypical?
Anyway, no-one is demanding a black Bond, it's not a PC crusade, no-one is saying that it is racist that there has not been a black Bond, we're simply discussing whether it could/would happen. I personally would not be bothered having a black actor portraying Bond, as long as he was a good actor.

 

[Hawgh]

If he wears a suit, has a british accent and an 18+ charisma score...sure, whatever.

 

[sheic99]

It's irrelevant, unless you're a racist moron from the deep south of America, what does it matter? The Bond series has already been ruined by the latest two Jason Bourne copy-cat films.

Actually the last two movies represent the original books by Ian Flemming that any of the other movies. And all they other movies became camp because that's what happened to violent media in the time period.

 

[Logan Westbrook]

Short answer, no.

Long answer, no, because it would completely contradict the last oh so many films. James Bond suddenly transformed into a black guy.

As opposed to M suddenly transformed into a woman, which is clearly fine.

So true.

Not quite. M is a code name, James Bond is the actual character.

Whose to say that James Bond isn't a code name too? Would a top agent who specialises in wetwork really be so cavalier about giving out his real name?

 

[Rankao]

Only is he has a British accent and isn't a obvious American Stereo type. Then I don't see a problem with it. God I will kill the director who puts an American Stereotypical black man into a Bond film.

Short answer, no.

Long answer, no, because it would completely contradict the last oh so many films. James Bond suddenly transformed into a black guy.

As opposed to M suddenly transformed into a woman, which is clearly fine.

So true.

Not quite. M is a code name, James Bond is the actual character.

Whose to say that James Bond isn't a code name too?

Actually thats quite true, They would likely completely reissue him a identity upon joining upper ranks M16.

 

[Di22y]

I voted no because their is no reason why there should be a black bond. Then again there is no reason why there shouldn't be, other than it will upset some fans.

Sorry just been transferred from a philosophy thread!

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

As was said, "M" is a codename. It was explained in Goldeneye (right?) that there was a new "M," and her gender was even made note of. It really is a matter of subjectivity and taste, and not objective fact, but I would not like such a drastic revision to any established character. Besides, when things like this happen, it tends to become a circus of self-congratulation and political correctness. It makes me blush a bit; it seems awfully patronizing.

EDIT: I see no reason to assume that "James Bond" is anything but a normal name. As far as I know, they have never hinted otherwise. I seem to recall that all the previous Bonds had the same long-dead-wife back-story. There's no reason they couldn't make changes to incorporate a black Bond, however; I'm just saying it would bug me.

 

[Nedned]

Short answer, no.

Long answer, no, because it would completely contradict the last oh so many films. James Bond suddenly transformed into a black guy.

As opposed to M suddenly transformed into a woman, which is clearly fine.

M is just a title. There could be a new M if the last one just resigned, was fired, retired, died, whatever. Thats like saying "Ommigod, my boss just turned into a woman!" when actually you just got a new boss.
But a black bond? Bond is supposed to be as british as possible and I know, as I live in britain, that there are very few british black people. Yes, there are africans, or americans or asian people, but they are very rarely british, they just happen to currnetly live in britain. Expanding from that, I don't know of any good, british black actors, so it would just be some american doing what they thought was a british accent, and all the british cinema-goers would cringe as they heard an obviously american person making a complete fool of themselves, like with Kensei in Heroes.

 

[Logan Westbrook]

As was said, "M" is a codename. It was explained in Goldeneye (right?) that there was a new "M," and her gender was even made note of.

Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace are a reboot of the Bond franchise, as evidenced by Bond being made into a double-oh agent near the beginning, and yet the female M stays.

 

[Logan Westbrook]

They didn't have a great story as to why Bond suddenly stopped being Scottish, or suddenly became George Lazenby. Why should this be any different?

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace are a reboot of the Bond franchise, as evidenced by Bond being made into a double-oh agent near the beginning, and yet the female M stays.

Huh, I guess you're right. Even that is a little annoying, but far less so for being an ancillary character.