Poll: Should Xbox Live Be Free?

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Crazybuddha56

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It SHOULD be free, but it will never happen because a)microsoft loves squeezing people for every penny and b)people will always be willing to pay for it, including myself.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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Just so you know, microsoft has the severs for LIVE.(which like its console sucks.)While sony doesn't run servers besides first party games, 3rd party games have servers ran by that company.
 

Conscience

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i agree the Xbox Live should be free...
however not right now.
microsoft already have a good headstart over the PS3 and the Wii in not only the game veriaty, more money BUT also better games with better GAMEPLAY.
after all sony is down billions cuz the PS3 was sold for less $$$ then it took to make it, and the wii although fun but not as atractive or not as populor gameing styles. dont take me wrong , i love the wii and ps3 but right now Xbox is on top
if they make xbox live for free it should only be a last resort for wen Sony gits there crap together with the PS3
 

DeadlyFred

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flare09 post=9.68405.629884 said:
As much as I would like for it to be free that would never happen. However a reduced price would be nice.
It's less than five dollars a month. Seriously, there are much more egregious affronts to humanity than the cost of the XBLive service.
 

shadow skill

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Knight Templar post=9.68405.633173 said:
We pay for a better experance, if we don't pay the qulity will drop. Simple.
Accept the quality is generally inferior to the oldest online comunity when it comess to gaming and absolutely equal to its main competition. You are not paying for quality at this point.
 

DeadlyFred

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Generally inferior to what community?

Also, while XBL and PSN may be pretty similar on the surface, there's really no grounds to judge one over the other unless you've got a network performance chart for each of them; that's what really matters.
 

Audemas

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I don't mind having to pay 50 bucks a year for a damn good online experience. I can't go back to the PS3 because it just takes too long.
 

shadow skill

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DeadlyFred post=9.68405.633394 said:
Generally inferior to what community?

Also, while XBL and PSN may be pretty similar on the surface, there's really no grounds to judge one over the other unless you've got a network performance chart for each of them; that's what really matters.
The pc community, I also fail to see what quality you are paying for if a majority of the games use a player connect system what that means is that your connection is doing the overwhelming majority of the work. The same exact thing happens for the PSN.
 

The Wooster

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What struck me as bullshit is that quite a few 360 games use player hosting. Making me wonder "why the fuck am I paying for this?"
 

DeadlyFred

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shadow skill post=9.68405.633567 said:
DeadlyFred post=9.68405.633394 said:
Generally inferior to what community?

Also, while XBL and PSN may be pretty similar on the surface, there's really no grounds to judge one over the other unless you've got a network performance chart for each of them; that's what really matters.
The pc community, I also fail to see what quality you are paying for if a majority of the games use a player connect system what that means is that your connection is doing the overwhelming majority of the work. The same exact thing happens for the PSN.
Yeah, I thought that's what you were getting at but I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Comparing anything against the internet connectivity of the PC is like comparing the lethality of something to the lethality of death; PCs invented the freakin' internet, they better be good at it. Though, depending on the game, PC connectivity may or may not be assured 100% Most games rely on 3rd party servers although most also, thankfully, have direct connect options--again, because they're PCs and PCs do that kinda thing.

Far as the XBL vs PSN thing, again, you can't compare the performance of the two without hard stats. If they both work and work comparably in your opinion then that's fine. Do you know the real reason Sony doesn't need to charge for its on-line service? Because they spent an entire console generation (and continue even now) extorting people 25 fricken dollars for memory cards with less storage capacity than my watch.
 

shadow skill

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DeadlyFred post=9.68405.633601 said:
shadow skill post=9.68405.633567 said:
DeadlyFred post=9.68405.633394 said:
Generally inferior to what community?

Also, while XBL and PSN may be pretty similar on the surface, there's really no grounds to judge one over the other unless you've got a network performance chart for each of them; that's what really matters.
The pc community, I also fail to see what quality you are paying for if a majority of the games use a player connect system what that means is that your connection is doing the overwhelming majority of the work. The same exact thing happens for the PSN.
Yeah, I thought that's what you were getting at but I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt. Comparing anything against the internet connectivity of the PC is like comparing the lethality of something to the lethality of death; PCs invented the freakin' internet, they better be good at it. Though, depending on the game, PC connectivity may or may not be assured 100% Most games rely on 3rd party servers although most also, thankfully, have direct connect options--again, because they're PCs and PCs do that kinda thing.

Far as the XBL vs PSN thing, again, you can't compare the performance of the two without hard stats. If they both work and work comparably in your opinion then that's fine. Do you know the real reason Sony doesn't need to charge for its on-line service? Because they spent an entire console generation (and continue even now) extorting people 25 fricken dollars for memory cards with less storage capacity than my watch.
The PC only is as good as it is because dedicated servers are used. The superiority of what is available to the PC market has nothing to do with PC's beingg what they are. PC's didn't invent the internet, oh and guess what all consoles are by definition computers the use of specialized hardware and a custom operating system are the only major differences! (Typically) With the exception of the MMO playing online on the PC is free, in fact Windows live for PC is now free because PC players wouldn't tolerate MS's bs with respect to charging people to play online.
 

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shadow skill post=9.68405.633626 said:
in fact Windows live for PC is now free because PC players wouldn't tolerate MS's bs with respect to charging people to play online.
And thats why its free to play cross-platform games free on XBL (UNO,Lost Planet,Shadowrun)
 

Silver Patriot

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I for one don't think Xbox Live should be made free. Just my opinion. I know PSN is free and that it is a good service, (I have a PS3, and i use it) but the only reason it really is free (and I could be wrong about this) is because when it lauched it had to compete with Xbox Live. I really do think that without the competition of Live Sony would have pulled the same move Microsoft did.

I actualy think it's quite funny: Sony can't charge for PSN because it would lose it's biggest point over Live and Microsoft can't (read: won't) make Live free because that would mean admiting that the PSN offers a similer gaming experance. (If it actualy does or not is not the point) Which is why this argument is ultiminly pointless.
 
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Free. 'Cause maybe I'd commit to buying one if I didn't have to pay $50 a year to a multi-billion dollar company just to get some damn value out of it's product.
 

TunaCanner

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I personally think it should be free, but it's very very doubtful that it ever will be, it's more likely that the price may lower. Though some people argue that since PSN is free XBL should be free too, I disagree because XBL has so many more features than PSN and is genuinely worth the price, though game downloads need to be free, movie download costs make sense.
 

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shatnershaman post=9.68405.633651 said:
shadow skill post=9.68405.633626 said:
in fact Windows live for PC is now free because PC players wouldn't tolerate MS's bs with respect to charging people to play online.
And thats why its free to play cross-platform games free on XBL (UNO,Lost Planet,Shadowrun)
They made those games free for Xbox Live users as well? Nice. I can't see how they could not fund the whole thing with the profits from the market place; doesn't look like they are hurting for content that might be worth buying. The only other problem is that their point system is a fairly clever way of obscuring just how much you are paying for stuff.
 

shatnershaman

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shadow skill post=9.68405.633688 said:
The only other problem is that their point system is a fairly clever way of obscuring just how much you are paying for stuff.
Maybe if you can't do math.


Its 80 points=$1

400/80=5
800/80=10
etc
 

DeadlyFred

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shadow skill post=9.68405.633626 said:
The PC only is as good as it is because dedicated servers are used. The superiority of what is available to the PC market has nothing to do with PC's beingg what they are. PC's didn't invent the internet, oh and guess what all consoles are by definition computers the use of specialized hardware and a custom operating system are the only major differences! (Typically) With the exception of the MMO playing online on the PC is free, in fact Windows live for PC is now free because PC players wouldn't tolerate MS's bs with respect to charging people to play online.
I was being facetious, and the PC's superiority has exactly to do with "what they are". You have far more options at your disposal when dealing with PCs and even if one is not readily available, one can often be found. Consoles are not just "PCs in a smaller box", they are closed systems with preset operating parameters and software. PCs, you can do pretty much whatever the heck you want to with, regardless of the fact many run a MS operating system.

Microsoft has money because they make money, they're a business... its kinda what they do. Frankly, as much as I hate the Capitalist Greed game, I will give MS some credit as they do a pretty good job earning their keep when it comes to the XBOX consoles, and especially this generation. MS secured a number of high-profile franchises for the 360 (GTA, Devil May Cry, among many others)--those things aren't just given away, it takes money. Also, do you know why the PS3 didn't have vibrating controllers at launch? Because Sony didn't want to pay for them. I don't mean pay for the fabrication of them, I mean pay for the license to use the force-feedback technology.

I don't care what MS does with my $50 dollars a year. I don't care if it never goes anywhere near XBL, frankly. If MS were a shit company that sat on its ass all day at the office it wouldn't be worth paying anything but for as atrocious as they are at making operating systems, MS has been a damn fine figurehead for gaming consoles. They've certainly handled their affairs far better and to greater benefit for their users than Sony has lately.
 

shatnershaman

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DeadlyFred unfortunatly had a sudden outset of outspokeness and suffered a bullet releated injury.(jk I just love that episode http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Goo_Goo_Gai_Pan P.S The link is for Indigo Dingo who likes to say I "drunk talk" about nothing)