so wait, what your suggesting is a test with no repocussions and no licence rather you are suggesting a test with sugestions afterwords on weather they should or should not have the kid and if not how to be a better pairents in the future (while not forcing people to not have children regardless of the results). If this is the case then well i ..... agree with you, in that point.Srsly said:I'm not saying to deny someone from having their kids, but to educate them before to have them. Suggesting good ways to raise kids rather than forcibly telling people how to raise kids. Some people take better to suggestion rather than a direct command.whereas parenting and childbirth is about a life itself and the continuation of a family, forcing someone to destroy a life and deniying them a family is somewhat.... iffy
Wow, I agree with this. It's been proven as well, just look at northern European countries.irishdelinquent said:Besides, in my opinion, kids are too safeguarded these days. Everything has to have non-sharpened corners and be cleaned 4 times a day to prevent a kid from hurting themselves on anything. Now if you want to know the kind of thing that should be stopped, it shouldn't be "neglegent" parents (which I don't think is a fair term), it should be overacheiving parents. Your 3-year-old kid doesn't need to be learning math and spelling at that age so they can get into pre-prep school; they need to be learning to walk and not eat grass clippings. Let the kids be kids.
i'm not sure why'd you suggest that in the first place if you had already noticed the problem with it.Mrsnugglesworth said:I noticed that. I was hoping no one else would.Knight Templar said:What happens when the fine isn't paid?Mrsnugglesworth said:Every 3 years you have to take the test from 18 to Death.stone0042 said:It would be pointless, what would you do to those that fail? You can hardly steal their baby...
If you fail to take the test, and you have a child you get fined.
Is the child then taken away? That would create ever biger issues than poor parenting.
this seems like a reasonable idea.boholikeu said:Though I do wonder if it'd be possible to reward good parenting with tax breaks. Say, if your child had less than X unexcused absences (or suspensions), the parents would get a tax break.
Well what happens if the parent is a dead beat that doesn't pay taxes? Then it wouldn't be an incentive to be a good parent, it just give the parents who are already good at what they do a break financally, which would be nice.cobra_ky said:this seems like a reasonable idea.boholikeu said:Though I do wonder if it'd be possible to reward good parenting with tax breaks. Say, if your child had less than X unexcused absences (or suspensions), the parents would get a tax break.
if they're tax delinquents then they're probably not going to be able to support a child financially. in fact, part of what i would test for would be financial security and a credit check. hopefully the financial incentive would encourage prospective parents to study and prepare in advance for their children.Baron Von Evil Satan said:Well what happens if the parent is a dead beat that doesn't pay taxes? Then it wouldn't be an incentive to be a good parent, it just give the parents who are already good at what they do a break financally, which would be nice.cobra_ky said:this seems like a reasonable idea.boholikeu said:Though I do wonder if it'd be possible to reward good parenting with tax breaks. Say, if your child had less than X unexcused absences (or suspensions), the parents would get a tax break.
I really don't see it solving any problems.
People like that should not be allowed to breed...Kuchinawa212 said:I mean this is kind my case
What good can come of that
Too late, she's pregnant now XDSovvolf said:People like that should not be allowed to breed...Kuchinawa212 said:I mean this is kind my case
What good can come of that
Nah, it'd be again too many people's 'human rights' to breed the planet into oblivion; nevermind the fact that humanity really needs to drop its population, preferably to something like 1 billion or less, if it wants everyone to be well off, have plenty of food, and so forth. That or invent fusion power and have the capability to create space-born habition and/or food supplies...Kuchinawa212 said:Hmm a good idea, I see when it could be useful. But what about those two hormonally charged teens over there that had sex and now have baby. I mean do you test them then? If they fail to you take it away?
I understand when it would be useful root out all the terrible parents, but there would really no way to repress them from having sex.
(awaits for someone to use a HL reference for how to suppress the creation of babies)
Oh sweet jesus, thats awful. You know those things you see and then wish you hadn't? And why doesn't her mother tell the annoying whiny toned brat that if she gets preggers she'll kick her out? When can that be legally done in the USA?Kuchinawa212 said:I mean this is kind my case
What good can come of that
OH GOD, NOOOO. Seriously, God, are you even watching? Perfect creator my buttocks.Kuchinawa212 said:Too late, she's pregnant now XDSovvolf said:People like that should not be allowed to breed...
Doug said:OH GOD, NOOOO. Seriously, God, are you even watching? Perfect creator my buttocks.
Well... its an improvement. But she still got herself preggers. At least the annoying whine has gone from her voice.Kuchinawa212 said:Doug said:OH GOD, NOOOO. Seriously, God, are you even watching? Perfect creator my buttocks.
Yeah, but she's really cleaned up her act. I guess there was some hope there after all =D
Well, if they can't afford to support a baby, should they be allowed to keep a baby? Whilst I generally think the poor shouldn't be left to die on the streets like the USA's health system would require, I don't see why the poor should be supported by everyone else went they have more children than their life can afford to keep. Ok, if they suddenly lose their job, its a different story, but thats a detail that would have to be hammered out.Florion said:Would a person who is too poor to consistently afford food and diapers be denied a baby?
Who said anything about aborting the baby? For starters, the poll simply states the intended idea, not its implementation. Adoption or some form of temporary birth control could achieve the same effect.Would a person who doesn't feel comfortable aborting her baby be denied? (I happen to be pro-choice, but that includes the choice to not abort) I'm kind of ashamed that there are so many "Yes" votes here; it's so clearly wrong to say who can and can't have a child.