Poll:So the new spider man is half black, half hispanic ,what do you think escapist.

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nicksdrago0

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If theres one thing that irks me off on the same level as racism, its people going out of their way to show how not racist they are.

God damm marvel, coudent you just introduce a black superhero if it was really getting on your nerves, rather than kill off a classic just to replace him?

EDIT: looking back at my post, I could see how this would come off the wrong way, so im gonna explain a bit more.

Look at a series like scott pilgrim. With the exception of one of the evil ex's, the cast was white/asian. It covered issues on homosexuality, but less in a "Oh noes im gay how can I live the life im living with my friends knowing im gay" and more in a way that it further boosts his characterisation. This is the good diversity, where a variation in the cast allows for interesting situations.

Now lets say at about book 3, a black character was introduced. He did'nt contribute to the storyline, had no character and just seemed to stand there. He would have became, in the most simplest terms, diversity filler.

Now don't get me wrong, if this guy had a distinct personality, background and character with strengths and flaws he would make a good superhero. Problem is, peter parker was already that, and he got replaced because they did'nt want to come up with another superhero whilst still filling their self percived diversity quota. Thats what irks me in particular.
 

Cyberdelic

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I don't see the problem in having a new character take up the mantle in other universes. After all, seeing the same person doing the same thing in different comics is a bad sales idea because its boring to the readership. Spider-Man IS the hero, Peter Parker is the vessel. Sooner or later, everyone dies anyway. Why cant Parkers time be now?

Also I'm getting fairly sick of fan-boy knee jerk slander lately. Every where you turn in the industry fan boys are frothing at the mouth with geek rage over some minor change or injunction to a characters history or current story... without adaptations, fresh ideas and new characters the market becomes dead - saturated with the same product, bored consumers going else where etc... lest not forget that Spider-Man ISNT REAL. His adventures thus far are printed on paper and nothing can change that, no amount of retcon or whatever because the chronology exists on archived format. So it's not like Spider-Man is doomed or neglected forever.

If vocial stories can change over time, why cant comics?
 

Sojoez

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I don't care. You know why? Because marvel doesn't publish in the Netherlands anymore. Last Spiderman I read was when Menace turned out to be Harry Osborns wife.
/sadfaice
 
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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
metal eslaved said:
Okay let explain first marvel comics has 2 universes the 616(the regular one)and the ultimate, in the ultimate universe peter parker(spiderman) died about a month ago, today have been revealed that his successor is half black, half hispanic Miles Morales.

http://comics.ign.com/articles/118/1185446p1.html

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=379006

so what the problem? that comics fan have pretty much gone nuts over this.Some say that this is good thing and other say that this is bullshit and killing peter parker just to put a black person as spiderman is wrong.

oh and before somebody ask dead in the ultimate universe is permanent so far.
Which means one thing:

The next Spider-Man movie with this continuation will be played by Derek Jeter.
Wikipedia said:
[Donald Glover's] attempt to audition inspired the half-black half-Hispanic character Miles Morales, who would take up the mantle of Spider-Man after the death of Peter Parker in Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #160.
Is that actually true? It seemed like a funny coincidence that first there was a huge Twitter campaign to get Danny Glover an audition as Spider-Man, and now there IS a black Spider-Man.
 

ThePeaceFrog

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It's obviously just a ploy to introduce Morales to the readership before he becomes a new superhero in his own right.
It's not like characters stay dead in these comics. I'd bet anything that Parker will magically pop back to life due to some plot-twist when everyone gets bored and Morales will skip off to his own series hopefully taking some of Ultimate's readership with him.
 

Jaime_Wolf

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If ever there were a superhero with an origin, setting, and character suited to deal with interesting stories from such a perspective, it is Spiderman.

This reminds me of the backlash against the black Norse god in Thor. Except this time people don't even have tenuous bullshit "historical" justifications (before it starts again, let's remember: this is a comic mythology based on Norse-god aliens).
 

badgersprite

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I doncurr. Anyone who has ever read a comic would know that the identities of heroes change all the time, often creating new and interesting stories. Hell, even Batman intended to (and did) permanently give up his mantle to another person one day. How you doin' Terry?

Superhero identities have been more titles than the person themselves for a long time now. Big deal.
 

ParkourMcGhee

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Bhahahahahahahahahahahahaha. All I have to do is ask "HOW?". Man, took him long enough, but how did he finally die? Got too inflexible and fell down the stairs? XD.

Don't really care about it, but there's plenty of black characters already. I only see it as kind of a dickish move by making a "new spiderman" though.
 

Logan Westbrook

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Ultratwinkie said:
Faladorian said:
Nothing wrong with superheroes of all races but honestly, why do they do this?

They take pre-existing heroes and change their ethnicity. They did it with the Green Lantern, and sure it didn't take away from the action, but you don't have to change a character just to fit diversity. Just make some new ones of different races.

It's not wrong, it's just not canonical.
Actually the original green lantern (the one the movie is basically based on) was white. John Stewart was the second green lantern, the one you're referring to. Two different dimensional green lanterns.
If we're getting really technical here, John Stewart is something like the third or fourth Green Lantern. Alan Scott from the Golden Age was the very first, then Hal Jordan, and I think Guy Gardner was Green Lantern before Stewart as well.
 

Sentox6

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Doesn't matter. It's the Ultimate universe. It's been crap for ages now.

Logan Westbrook said:
If we're getting really technical here, John Stewart is something like the third or fourth Green Lantern. Alan Scott from the Golden Age was the very first, then Hal Jordan, and I think Guy Gardner was Green Lantern before Stewart as well.
Well, if we're getting really really technical here, while Alan Scott did bear the name "Green Lantern", he was never a member of the corps and his power was derived from a different source. Doesn't really seem right to include him in the count.
 

Logan Westbrook

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Sentox6 said:
Doesn't matter. It's the Ultimate universe. It's been crap for ages now.

Logan Westbrook said:
If we're getting really technical here, John Stewart is something like the third or fourth Green Lantern. Alan Scott from the Golden Age was the very first, then Hal Jordan, and I think Guy Gardner was Green Lantern before Stewart as well.
Well, if we're getting really really technical here, while Alan Scott did bear the name "Green Lantern", he was never a member of the corps and his power was derived from a different source. Doesn't really seem right to include him in the count.
You make a good point, but I think it's the name, not the power source, that's the key here.
 

Queen Michael

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To me, it's all about the particular character and the writing. To judge somehting like this as good, or bad for that matter, isn't possible.
 

Sentox6

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Logan Westbrook said:
You make a good point, but I think it's the name, not the power source, that's the key here.
I can't really argue. I just think of him as separate from the others, but he was still the first to bear the name, as you say.