Poll: Stem cell research

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Jian-Li

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There probably won't be a cure for death without the problems outweighing the benefits. The only immortal biological species is the hydra (technically they are not immortal since things like predators and pollution can kill them). But one gene can affect multiple seemingly unrelated traits because in the case of an experiment by former geneticist Dmitri Belyaev who was forced out of his job as a geneticist by Niken Khrushchev who ruined soviet agriculture and genetics. Dmitri was forced to breed foxes, selecting them for tameness. Even though he and his team of breeders were breeding only for tameness many other traits were affected (being able to put their ears down, wagging their tails when happy, and barking like domesticated dogs, mottled fur, a raised tail, ears being floppy for a few months after being born, and coming into heat every six months instead of yearly).
 

BreakfastMan

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Well, as long as we are not growing and harvesting them from babies in test tubes, but are instead getting them from aborted fetuses, I am all for it. I mean, it is just basically dead flesh now, why not use it to help people?
 

Jian-Li

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There probably won't be a cure for death without the problems outweighing the benefits. The only immortal biological species is the hydra (technically they are not immortal since things like predators and pollution can kill them). But one gene can affect multiple seemingly unrelated traits because in the case of an experiment by former geneticist Dmitri Belyaev who was forced out of his job as a geneticist by Niken Khrushchev who ruined soviet agriculture and genetics. Dmitri was forced to breed foxes, selecting them for tameness. Even though he and his team of breeders were breeding only for tameness many other traits were affected (being able to put their ears down, wagging their tails when happy, and barking like domesticated dogs, mottled fur, a raised tail, ears being floppy for a few months after being born, and coming into heat every six months instead of yearly)
 

Feralcentaur

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Internet Kraken said:
I'm not against stem cell research itself, though it is not yet a living human, if left undisturbed it would almost certainly grow to be a human. Therefore, aborting it is depriving it of life. I am morally opposed to this as I believe every human has the right to life. life to get them that bothers me.
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Then by your morals would you also consider masturbation to be wrong as the sperm could have become a person? Just curious. OP: I'm pro Stem cell research but find some of the methods of getting stem cells to be disturbing or unsettling or "wrong".
 

DevilWolf47

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I'm pro, though largely for the sole purpose of rubbing it in the face of fucking morons who think that aborted fetuses are the only source of stem cells.
...oh, and the whole thing about how the research could revolutionize the field of medicine i specialize in and could possibly heal previously crippling or fatal injuries. That's important, i guess.
 

Dexiro

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I see no reason against it. Even taking embryonic stem cells is fine as long as they fulfil their purpose.
 

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Jegsimmons said:
i was orginally against stem cell reasearch because it used fetuses, but now that they finding ways to use it without fetuses (such as fat cells and skin cell ect.) i'm totally for it.

im not a extreme conservative or anything, fetus use as such just creeps me the fuck out.
Stem cell research never used fetuses, it used embryo's which are from an extremely early stage in development and can barely be considered human.
 

killcheese

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I'm actually against it. Not because of some religious "fetuses are people" belief, but because it can result in the "cure for death". If this happens, the natural renewal of the population stops, and society has to start considering when people are not allowed to live anymore.
You are overestimating the potential of stem cells. People will still die, and its all about quality of life not quantity. If someone has a car crash and becomes paraplegic why should he/she be denied the ability to walk just because the life expectancy would go up by a small amount?
 

Snotnarok

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I'm totally for it, otherwise what could be used just goes to waste. People suffer without it, that magic burn gun when I saw that I was overwhelmed at how amazing it is, burns are the worst I've had a few minor ones and if people who are SEVERELY burned can be cured by stuff that was going to be tossed out anyway? God dammit do it, enough of this dancing around it bullshit. It's up to the person who's harmed ultimately but give them the option!
 

WinkyTheGreat

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What it really amounts to is that abortion is legal and will more than likely remain so. May as well put those cells to use with research instead of just letting them go to waste.
 

Ensiferum

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I'm against embryonic stem cell research, for the same reason I'm against abortion. If it's not a living human being, and killing it isn't murder, then what is it? Other forms of stem cell research however are perfectly acceptable fields of study and should be investigated.
 

Internet Kraken

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FeralCentaur said:
Then by your morals would you also consider masturbation to be wrong as the sperm could have become a person? Just curious.
A sperm alone can not become a person. Only when the sperm fertilizes the egg do I consider destroying it be a problem. After the egg is fertilized, a life will come from it.
 

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I'm pro, stem cells are a delicious alternative to conventional protein shake regimens. When I'm busting my quats down at the gym on the freeweight stairmaster I require the nutrition that can only be achieved through sucking down liquid baby meat. If there is more research there is a better chance of some "falling off the back of a truck" if you catch my drift. Maurice is a capable man but you can't get blood from a rock. You can get it from a baby though.
 

anihilato

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killcheese said:
anihilato said:
I'm actually against it. Not because of some religious "fetuses are people" belief, but because it can result in the "cure for death". If this happens, the natural renewal of the population stops, and society has to start considering when people are not allowed to live anymore.
You are overestimating the potential of stem cells. People will still die, and its all about quality of life not quantity. If someone has a car crash and becomes paraplegic why should he/she be denied the ability to walk just because the life expectancy would go up by a small amount?
My problem is not a case like that. My problem is that some old rich guy can just buy a new 20 year old body, and then practically become immortal since he just has to buy a new body every 60 years.
 

killcheese

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anihilato said:
My problem is not a case like that. My problem is that some old rich guy can just buy a new 20 year old body, and then practically become immortal since he just has to buy a new body every 60 years.
I dont know enough about where the future of stem cell research is heading but if you add time travel to what you said its basically the movie freejack. One thing is for sure, we are nowhere near any form of transferring ones mind from one body to another.

imdb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104299/