Poll: Striking a woman

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Phasmal

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Legion said:
Perhaps you two ought to read the OP.

They didn't actually ask a general question of whether or not it is okay. They described a specific scenario and asked our opinions on it.
People are still answering generally and my original statement can be easily applied to the OP anyway.
 

ToxicOranges

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Gender makes no difference to me whatsoever. You want equality? Stop spotting gender.

Having said that, I don't really hit people, ever.
 

The Hero Killer

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No one should hit anyone for no reason, but I will say this... If they would cant be equal in a way where I could hit a woman in the same way I would a man for any reason they they shouldnt be equal in anything. Its all or nothing.

I dont like double standards and I've seen plenty of times where women get in mens faces asking to get hit then cry like a baby when they do it.
 

Wolf In A Bear Suit

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Generally I'd probably prefer to tackle them rather than straight up hit them if their isn't a chance of them hitting me. If they really are trying to hit me, I have no choice. This goes for men and women, but in your case the woman didn't seem to be doing much damage so maybe no need to hit her, (granted it was only a slap) the guy however had intent to really hit you so your actions were definatly justified
 

Stu35

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Abandon4093 said:
I explained that there is no need to get physical and suggested him to calm down
Then he pushed me again, called me a fag and asked what will I do.
Then I once more explained that I will not tolerate such behavior further from excuse of human being.
Then he attempted to punch me, I counterattacked him with 3 hit combo that left him on the ground gasping for air.
Seems legit.
My thoughts exactly. I especially like the phrase "3 hit combo".



Internet ten-men aside.

If you're in danger, then you absolutrly should. Nothing more to say really.
Also. This.
 

Tuesday Night Fever

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Male. Voted yes, within reason.

If someone is physically aggressive toward me, I'm going to respond with equal force. I don't care if you're male or female, it doesn't matter. No one should get a free-pass to hurt people.
 

Valnyan

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Beffudled Sheep said:
Sounds like you did right to me. Nobody was seriously hurt and you probably stopped them from beating each other to a pulp.

As for the poll I answered the physical danger one. I've been in many fights with girls and women, lost quite a few too. And just because they don't look like they eat steroids for breakfast doesn't mean they're not dangerous. Damn they have a good left hook. I still have a light creak in my jaw after one of them got me.

Male here.
That. And I'm done reading this stupid thread right there. Special mention to Azure-Supernova too. Congratulation for having common sense, it's not that common.

Yet, I will still comment on that whole "hitting a woman" mess.

Boys, it's time to turn your TV off, it's time to stop learning life via internet, it's time to get some experience out there and realising we're not in a video game.

A real fight in real life is not tekken, there is no combos, martial arts doesn't make you an untouchable god in a brawl.

That being said ... women ... sorry to break it to you all, but women aren't etheral being unable to hit you, they are not bound to a "different ruleset" that makes any attempt of "PvP" from a woman to a man "deal zero damage". Like a lot of peoples here pretends. If a woman punches you, no matter how tall and muscular you are it WILL hurt you. If she's assaulting you with a weapon, she will injure you.

It's just retarded to think a woman can't never hurt a man. (As Azure-Supernova said, if thay were the case, then you should not even try to defend yourself against anyone smaller than you.)

Also, I laugh at peoples saying you should always ressort to restraining a girl, removing any weapon from her and calm her. Because, as a man, you have that tremendous advantage against any woman on earth : you can engage PvP against them but they are powerless to engage PvP with you, right ?

No, it's retarded to think this and will get you hurt the day you'll try to use the experience you aquired on internet and tekken.

And, just another little thing I see mentionned a lot in this thread. "Grab her by the wrist". Because everyone knows a woman has a power button, and it's on her wrist, if you grab it she just shuts down and becomes a lifeless doll !
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StandardFemaleGrabArea
 
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Valnyan said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
Sounds like you did right to me. Nobody was seriously hurt and you probably stopped them from beating each other to a pulp.

As for the poll I answered the physical danger one. I've been in many fights with girls and women, lost quite a few too. And just because they don't look like they eat steroids for breakfast doesn't mean they're not dangerous. Damn they have a good left hook. I still have a light creak in my jaw after one of them got me.

Male here.
That. And I'm done reading this stupid thread right there. Special mention to Azure-Supernova too. Congratulation for having common sense, it's not that common.

Yet, I will still comment on that whole "hitting a woman" mess.

Boys, it's time to turn your TV off, it's time to stop learning life via internet, it's time to get some experience out there and realising we're not in a video game.

A real fight in real life is not tekken, there is no combos, martial arts doesn't make you an untouchable god in a brawl.

That being said ... women ... sorry to break it to you all, but women aren't etheral being unable to hit you, they are not bound to a "different ruleset" that makes any attempt of "PvP" from a woman to a man "deal zero damage". Like a lot of peoples here pretends. If a woman punches you, no matter how tall and muscular you are it WILL hurt you. If she's assaulting you with a weapon, she will injure you.

It's just retarded to think a woman can't never hurt a man. (As Azure-Supernova said, if thay were the case, then you should not even try to defend yourself against anyone smaller than you.)

Also, I laugh at peoples saying you should always ressort to restraining a girl, removing any weapon from her and calm her. Because, as a man, you have that tremendous advantage against any woman on earth : you can engage PvP against them but they are powerless to engage PvP with you, right ?

No, it's retarded to think this and will get you hurt the day you'll try to use the experience you aquired on internet and tekken.

And, just another little thing I see mentionned a lot in this thread. "Grab her by the wrist". Because everyone knows a woman has a power button, and it's on her wrist, if you grab it she just shuts down and becomes a lifeless doll !
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StandardFemaleGrabArea
Thank you :D
But one day some of these people will get into a real fight with a real woman and a lot of them will probably be hurt. At least they'll learn.
 

Twilight_guy

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I believe in equality. That means' I'd strike a woman in the same situations I'd strike a man. Which is probably never. However, I don't care what set of naughty bits you have if I'm in a situation where I need to hit someone, I'm hitting him or her.
 

Alexnader

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manic_depressive13 said:
I don't think it's okay to hit anyone. I think you should have established whether the woman actually wanted help before you engaged the man. It's impossible to help someone who doesn't want to be helped. I also believe that it's better to subdue someone without striking them. It's no big deal though. You were only trying to do the right thing and in the end I'm presuming no one was permanently injured.
I'm just imagining someone watching a person being hit and ignoring it because they didn't want to be rude and interrupt someone's argument by asking what's going on. Sure, it may be difficult to help someone who doesn't want help however there's nothing wrong with interrupting a fight like that one provided you're confident of your own safety. If people are involved in violence they have no right to be offended if people intervene, especially if they're in public.
 

manic_depressive13

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Alexnader said:
I'm just imagining someone watching a person being hit and ignoring it because they didn't want to be rude and interrupt someone's argument by asking what's going on. Sure, it may be difficult to help someone who doesn't want help however there's nothing wrong with interrupting a fight like that one provided you're confident of your own safety. If people are involved in violence they have no right to be offended if people intervene, especially if they're in public.
Is that really hard to imagine? The guy had turned to him and told him to piss off. I'm suggesting that instead of responding to the man, he should have turned to the woman and asked "Is this man bothering you? Would you like to come with me?" I didn't say interupting would be rude. I said asking would have avoided him getting hit by the woman who obviously didn't want to be helped, and it would have saved him the fighting with the man too. I don't know where you got the absurd notions in your post.
 

Alexnader

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manic_depressive13 said:
Alexnader said:
Is that really hard to imagine? The guy had turned to him and told him to piss off. I'm suggesting that instead of responding to the man, he should have turned to the woman and asked "Is this man bothering you? Would you like to come with me?" I didn't say interupting would be rude. I said asking would have avoided him getting hit by the woman who obviously didn't want to be helped, and it would have saved him the fighting with the man too. I don't know where you got the absurd notions in your post.
You said: "I think you should have established whether the woman actually wanted help before you engaged the man". Now I assumed you meant engaged as in interacted with/talked to. If you meant "engaged in fisticuffs" then I can see what you were getting at but I still disagree. The way I see it, him fighting the man was not him helping the girl. That was him defending himself. He assisted the girl by interrupting their dispute and asking if everything was ok, that assistance ended the second he was forced to defend himself.

As for your solution, I don't think its a good idea to mediate a dispute by ignoring one party. Bypassing the violent angry drunk man and asking his girlfriend whether or not she'd like to come with you seems like a really good way to start a fight mostly because its pretty blatantly disrespectful. To be fair though most things involving "angry" and "drunk" generally end in violence of some kind.
 

Vault101

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Valnyan said:
unrelated, but what annoys me is when it comes to "realism in fiction" the old "women are weaker therefore them fighting is unrealistic" thing gets dragged out

YES it is a biological fact...but for fucks sake we are not make of glass ans polystyrine foam, it is actually possible for a woman to do damage to a man in some degree (and thats not even adressing "exceptions to the rules") realism depends on how the setting/context in the story is presented,like if a man is going after a women his "superior muscle mass" isn't going to do shit if she whips out a gun

I wish some people would stop looking at it in such a black/white way
 

Daniel Ferguson

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If one hits me for something I did, I'd take the hit. If we'd never met and she attacks me for no good reason other than she thinks I'm someone else or she's just a deranged psycho *****, well, then my knuckles might get bloody as I defend myself - something I've had a lot of experience in, thanks to being a bully magnet at school - but one with a great temper and the lack of self restraint (back then) to let it all out through my fists.

Or if we were roleplaying. Then I can imagine calling upon all of my frustrations again. But I wouldn't be keen on that kind of roleplay.
 

Angie7F

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I think gender does not matter when it come to "can you strike a person".
However I think "how hard" will have to be controlled depending on the build of the person.
 

SinisterGehe

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If a woman is rushing towards me with a knife, I think even the court of law will agree on that me hitting her and disarming was right action.
Tho that is Finnish legal system that is not bat shit insane like America's is.

But then again I am sick with neurological condition making my right side weak, I am a pacifist and don't think that violence solves anything.

But I am not going to die for those two ideals.
 

BloatedGuppy

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I'm getting close to 40, and I've yet to throw a punch in anger, or even in self-defense. It's honestly never come up. Probably a good thing, too, as I'd likely break my hand...I'm no Ali. But this is a hypothetical, so for the sake of the hypothetical I GUESS I would strike a guy, if I felt like I really had to. Therefore it stands to reason that I would also strike a girl, if I felt like I really had to. What circumstances those might be is anyone's guess. I see speculation like "She's coming for you with a knife!" but I'd probably be legging it if that was the case. She has a knife!

Punching or striking someone is a really big deal. Not because of the code of chivalry, although admittedly that does register for me, but because you can KILL someone with a wild punch. You can put them in a coma. You could ruin their life, or yours. It's some serious last resort stuff. I've been in fights as a kid, but they were all of the grappling variety where the only thing getting injured was clothing and dignity.

So...long winded answer to "Is it okay to strike women"...the answer is YES...with so many conditions attached it might as well be no. It's not okay to strike anyone you brutes!
 

blackrave

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Stu35 said:
Abandon4093 said:
I explained that there is no need to get physical and suggested him to calm down
Then he pushed me again, called me a fag and asked what will I do.
Then I once more explained that I will not tolerate such behavior further from excuse of human being.
Then he attempted to punch me, I counterattacked him with 3 hit combo that left him on the ground gasping for air.
Seems legit.
My thoughts exactly. I especially like the phrase "3 hit combo".



Internet ten-men aside.

If you're in danger, then you absolutely should. Nothing more to say really.
Also. This.
I'm sorry...
I'm so sorry, that I can't strangle people through Internet.
(Really God, just one day. I would use that power for good... mostly... well, occasionally... at least once for good. It's a deal?)
While I am supporter of "question everything" ideology, I'm also tired of people dismissing things only because they don't sound fancy enough.
Seriously I was pissed for like 5 minutes (that's a lot for me) after reading this.
What's wrong with "3 hit combo"?
That was combination of at least 3 hits (4 or 5 if we argue).
And combo is short form of combination and often used in games.
This is mostly gaming website, so I simply made it shorter, because I thought that people would understand what I mean.
I don't know how to react to this. I'm sorry?
If I used some invented word instead of "3 hit combo", would it sound more legit?
Then let me pull some word out of my ass, specially for all you skeptics out there.
"Then he attempted to punch me, I counterattacked him with chrammadash that left him on the ground gasping for air."
Now it's mysterious and fancy enough?


BloatedGuppy said:
Punching or striking someone is a really big deal. Not because of the code of chivalry, although admittedly that does register for me, but because you can KILL someone with a wild punch. You can put them in a coma. You could ruin their life, or yours. It's some serious last resort stuff. I've been in fights as a kid, but they were all of the grappling variety where the only thing getting injured was clothing and dignity.
Yeah, that's actually part I always forget during fights
Ex-convict got in similar situation like I did.
He punched the guy once, he landed with his head on some corner. 1 day in coma, then dead.
Problem was that his father was influential man, so he did everything to punish that ex-convict.
Somehow made sure girl stays silent (money or threats), used his contacts to influence a judge and chief of police.
The most fucked up part was that ex-convict really tried to straighten up- got solid job, married, wife were expecting kid.
Sisters co-worker was the one who built the case, and he was sure, that it will go as accident with minor punishment.
Mid-case he was replaced with another investigator and it turned into murder. Ex-convict got maximum sentence.
That was the last drop and sisters co-worker left police.
There might be pre-existing conditions or just plain unlucky fall... and you killed your opponent :/
So yes, it is dangerous.