I do occasionally but I'm good at controlling it. For example, I don't ever swear around adults or young children. Mostly, only if I'm with friends.
actually i have used swearing several times AND had a well constructed arguments about how using words like fuck, bullshit and asshole can be used in a proper argument without detracting from the intelligence of the person.Baby Tea said:Like I said from the beginning: Unnecessary swearing makes you look like an idiot. Your points in an argument might all be valid, but it's hard to take someone seriously when they are swearing needlessly. So, yes, it does in fact take away form your argument. I've been in many a debate, and I've never seen someone's point become any more valid for using profanity, but I have seen plenty of people lose credibility because of over-used profanity. It's completely pointless and unnecessary.cleverlymadeup said:however you are missing the point of what i'm saying, it's the context you use the words in, sure you don't need to swear but using a swear word doesn't take away from your argument in the least.
No, you didn't. Especially since we are currently living your example (Talking about swearing) and not once have I swore. You haven't convinced me of anything. You've said the same thing every time you quote me, and haven't really presented anything that shows me that sometimes swearing is worth it's use.my example does take away from your claim that using swear words detracts from your argument. you were making a blanket statement and i easily poked a hole in it.
Swearing for the sake of swearing is pointless and needless.
Swearing for the sake of 'effect' is an insecurity.
Well evidently you never actually read my posts.cleverlymadeup said:actually i have used swearing several times AND had a well constructed arguments about how using words like fuck, bullshit and asshole can be used in a proper argument without detracting from the intelligence of the person.
Again, wrong.and you aren't proving any point, you're just trying to pull the moral high ground and not using any profanity. however i am using words like fuck and shit and asshole in my arguments AND it's a very well constructed argument and proving your point wrong
Wrong! No I didn't. I said swearing needlessly makes you sound like an idiot. Do you not understand the difference? In my very first post I even said that someone can be smart and articulate and use swearing. My very first post. I even restated my point in a sum up at the end of my last post:cause you said that to use swearing detracts from the intelligence of the person
So what I'm saying is that swearing during an argument doesn't make a point any more valid, and actually detracts from an argument, since the argument is obviously not strong enough to stand on it's own. If it was, then the swearing wouldn't be needed.Swearing for the sake of swearing is pointless and needless.
Swearing for the sake of 'effect' is an insecurity.
actually they are well constructed and well reasoned out, it's not just saying "it's unnecessary and i don't do it"Baby Tea said:Well evidently you never actually read my posts.cleverlymadeup said:actually i have used swearing several times AND had a well constructed arguments about how using words like fuck, bullshit and asshole can be used in a proper argument without detracting from the intelligence of the person.
And no, your arguments aren't well constructed.
actually it DOES have to do with someone claiming the moral high ground. saying stuff like "i don't feel the need to" or "it makes the person look stupid" means you are trying to claim you are better than the other person. while you don't have to come out and saying it the implication of what you're trying to say is thereAgain, wrong.and you aren't proving any point, you're just trying to pull the moral high ground and not using any profanity. however i am using words like fuck and shit and asshole in my arguments AND it's a very well constructed argument and proving your point wrong
This has nothing to do with morality. When did I ever mention that 'it's wrong because it's bad'? Never, that's when. So don't tell me I'm taking 'moral high ground', when the only person who brought up morality is you just now. And no, you aren't proving my point wrong. You haven't even read my posts, it seems. why do I say that? Because you said this:
sorry you're wrong it doesn't detract in the least from the argument. just by adding the word fuck into this statement doesn't detract from it at all nor from the point i'm trying to prove. i certainly don't have to interject stuff like fuck or shit into my sentences but i can and the point i'm making is still very valid and so is the argument.Wrong! No I didn't. I said swearing needlessly makes you sound like an idiot. Do you not understand the difference? In my very first post I even said that someone can be smart and articulate and use swearing. My very first post. I even restated my point in a sum up at the end of my last post:
So what I'm saying is that swearing during an argument doesn't make a point any more valid, and actually detracts from an argument, since the argument is obviously not strong enough to stand on it's own. If it was, then the swearing wouldn't be needed.Swearing for the sake of swearing is pointless and needless.
Swearing for the sake of 'effect' is an insecurity.
I don't know how I can make it any clearer.
If you don't get it after this, then I'm finished dancing in circles with you.
I am not. That's why it's fun.Kris015 said:Are you british?Wild Cat said:Yes, but I try to vary it with an amusing tone. My newest is "bollocks!"