Poll: TES V Skyrim do you want the hardcore mode from New Vegas in it?
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I always liked the idea of food/water needs, but kept primarily a perk with the middle ground gap between no perk and actual punishment rather wide. For example, without the essentials for extended periods, you get weak and perhaps even eventually pass out (death in other planes, but just some sort of failsafe in civilised parts of the game like getting mugged and dumped in an inn). However, if you keep your stomach and bladder full, you get HP/MP regen or the like.
Defiantly would go for a system like this. I would occasional role-play stuff like this in Oblivion but it felt kind of weak. It would also give the misc items, like cups and bowls, more use in world and in immersion, as opposed to being just selling them or using them for decoration. It would also make exploration more fun, having to be aware of how much food and water you were carrying and you could plan your trips into them accordingly. It would probably best to release it as DLC which would allow them to get the main game to its peak before adding in new systems.Daystar Clarion said:
Keep in mind people that hardcore mode was completely optional. If you didn't like it, you never had to play it. Don't take it away from the rest of us who liked the realism, especially if it won't affect you in the long run.
One thing I would add to hardcore mode is the use of animations and such. I remember in Fallout 3, they had planned to make animations for applying chems and stimpaks, but it never came to fruition. I would like it kind of akin to a WoW style of eating, where you can only eat outside of combat. The weight of the food determines how long the animation would last. Maybe it wouldn't be the same for drinking since alcohols kind of boost and stunt your stats for combat. I can imagine my character taking a swig from his wineskin right before charging into a pack of goblins. There's a lot of appeal when it comes to making this hardcore style of RPG.
One thing I would add to hardcore mode is the use of animations and such. I remember in Fallout 3, they had planned to make animations for applying chems and stimpaks, but it never came to fruition. I would like it kind of akin to a WoW style of eating, where you can only eat outside of combat. The weight of the food determines how long the animation would last. Maybe it wouldn't be the same for drinking since alcohols kind of boost and stunt your stats for combat. I can imagine my character taking a swig from his wineskin right before charging into a pack of goblins. There's a lot of appeal when it comes to making this hardcore style of RPG.
If it was properly hardcore, then sure.
"Wear animal fur to not die of exposure! You stomach grumbles... EAT SOMETHING! Your mouth is dry, drink some water."
"Wear animal fur to not die of exposure! You stomach grumbles... EAT SOMETHING! Your mouth is dry, drink some water."
I think maybe adding it in differently. Instead of something that simply requires you to dig through your inventory and "eat" and "drink" every X number of hours, perhaps something like a "morale" stat. Going extended periods of time ignoring it just imparts some minor, non-crippling penalty. Get fixed up by actually SITTING DOWN in a Tavern or what have you to eat, drink, play music or listen to it (this would also require music played by NPC's to be at least somewhat worth listening to). High morale offers some kind of a small, non-critical buff. This would reward players for actually role-playing.
There are very few games that would lend themselves well to players forgetting questing, grinding, loot hunting, and all the other stuff that just advance the game or character in favor of letting you just immerse yourself in the world and act more like a real person in the game. I really think Bethesda could pull it off well if they tried it.
There are very few games that would lend themselves well to players forgetting questing, grinding, loot hunting, and all the other stuff that just advance the game or character in favor of letting you just immerse yourself in the world and act more like a real person in the game. I really think Bethesda could pull it off well if they tried it.
But it... was optional. So you could still play the game the 'classic' way. So why would that matter?Skullkid4187 said:
Yes, but obviously altered to be more TES friendly.
Heres a few ideas:
Disabled fast travvle.
No compass.
No Crosshair.
An ingame minute is 6seconds in stead of 1
Slightly quicker weapon degrading.
Slower Health/Fatigue Regen. Magicka nolonger regens on its own, must sleep or use potions.
Magic has slightly higher cost. With a chance to fail.
Gold/good loot/potions are harder to find.
Potions act instantly but are very rare, food and ingredents takes ingame 2 hours before you feel the effects.
Trainers cost more.
Gold has mass. =P
You may notice most of my ideas would make the game more like Morrowind.
Heres a few ideas:
Disabled fast travvle.
No compass.
No Crosshair.
An ingame minute is 6seconds in stead of 1
Slightly quicker weapon degrading.
Slower Health/Fatigue Regen. Magicka nolonger regens on its own, must sleep or use potions.
Magic has slightly higher cost. With a chance to fail.
Gold/good loot/potions are harder to find.
Potions act instantly but are very rare, food and ingredents takes ingame 2 hours before you feel the effects.
Trainers cost more.
Gold has mass. =P
You may notice most of my ideas would make the game more like Morrowind.
I hated it on FO:NV.
Instead of making it immersive and more realistic, it just added a lot of annoyance.
Instead of making it immersive and more realistic, it just added a lot of annoyance.