Poll: Tesco bans a "Jedi Knight" from their store

[cleverlymadeup]

Please, please tell me that was a joke...

Yes, Jesus lived. Doesn't make him the son of God, doesn't mean he can do magic tricks.
Also, if you genuinely believe that there's proof of Noah's flood....I.... there's just so much wrong with that, I don't know where to start. Same with the seven plagues. The Nile receding is just a natural phenomenon.

Also, the point has, in a way, been missed. They may be a series of myths based on real events, but why that makes them the written word of God, I'll never know.

ok shall i prove you wrong?

first off there IS proof of a great flood, it's a story that exists in EVERY religion around the world, including the aborigines in Australia whom had no contact for with the outside world for over 50k years. there is also other evidence such as a salt water lake in Australia that has no salt water source to feed it and there's also the Great Salt Lake in Utah, which also has no source for the salt water

now for the Nile receding, yes it does go down HOWEVER in this case, it fully receded and they have proof of it. see science has found soil from the Nile buried in the middle of the Mediterranean. there is no way for it to get there by the normal ebb and flow of the Nile. however if say a large volcano exploded and cause a large tidal wave that WOULD happen. and how does that story go .... oh yes the water receded allowing the Jews to pass and then there was a large tidal wave that swallowed up the Pharoh and his followers. a large volcano would also explain the pillars of fire and smoke, in the day it would be smoke at night it would be fire

and the seven plagues while all natural phenomena would be a mystery to the people at the time

as for why it's called the word of god, it's very simple. if you show technology to someone who is not very advanced, it seems like magic. a lot of tribes who have no contact with the outside world, think that a lighter is magic and same with a mirror.

Actually there is more evidence towards the fact that Jesus never existed, barring the obious thing of being crucified with nails through the hands is impossible (hands cant support the hanging bodies weight)

The fact that there is no written reports of anyone named jesus durning the time period accounts only started occuring 50 years after his "death" unlike all the other thousands of prophets with hundreds of written accounts durning their lifetime. And the fact that the person depicted in the tuban shroud clearly suffered from gigantasism.

ummm his name wasn't Jesus, try Yehoshua ben Yosef. there is also a lot of proof that early Christians destroyed the evidence to make him divine rather than mortal

also there is a lot more proof and evidence the shroud of Turin is actually Jacques De Molay, the last leader of the Templars and how his image got on there would make it a bit distorted

 

[teisjm]

"A Tesco spokesman said: "We would ask Jedis to remove hoods. Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda and Luke Skywalker all went hoodless without going to the Dark Side."

I laughed... a lot.

 

[Iron Mal]

A Jedi was banned for refusing to remove his hood? The hood on the robe isn't actually an essential article of Jedi attire (as far as my knowledge of 'Jedism' goes), there is nothing that prevented said fellow from simply lowering his hood in the name of following the rules and regulations put in place within the store to help ensure the security of customers and staff (other than him being an estranged jackass).

To me this just seems like someone trying to pull the 'it's part of my religion' card and having it fail miserably (legally Jedi is a religion due to numbers but realistically speaking it's about as credable as Scientology).

 

[Doug]

If they ban him for his hood, Muslims should be banned for the whole black cloth over their face thing. Just because a few million people believe the same thing doesn't mean they should get it easy.

I think its more "Hoodies == violent thieves" (i.e. chavs and little bastards), whereas the worst most black-vieled Muslims are likely to get upto is shop lifting, and even then its abit of a stretch to make an automatic assumption.

 

[Doug]

I don't Jedi is a religon

My good Sir, there is a Jedi Temple almost literally down the road from me.

Anyway, the story amused me much so.

....seriously? Or was than an amusing lie?

 

[eelel]

I do not agree with the ejection but I do have to say wtf?

 

[Biek]

If he really was a jedi, he couldve just mind-tricked his way back in.

Employee: Im sorry sir, youve been banned so you cant come in.
jedi knight: Sure I can. *hand wave*
Employee: Maybe you can. Come in.

 

[Spirultima]

Bit of an idiot, but its unfair really...

 

[Jamash]

It seems rather ironic that most of the people on this thread who are saying Jedi is a religion are Atheists, or people who are only saying that to belittle real religions.

When people who don't believe in God(s) or don't have any respect for religion, are the only people defending your religion, then it's not a proper religion.

Besides, if this guy and the organisation he started had any kind of legitimacy at all, it still wouldn't be a religion, it's a cult.

The guy got upset because Tesco asked him to remove the hood of his cultist's robes, it has nothing to do with religion.

In a nutshell, this guy just pulled the religious equivalent of Ali G getting removed from some premises and saying "Is it because I is black?".

If it's store policy not to wear hoods, then that's their right. They're probably losing business over this, but it's up to them.

I really doubt that. If anything, they'll probably get more business once people realise that the Jedi have boycotted Tesco and are shopping somewhere else, possible their local supermarket.
Tesco will be the one shop where you can be guaranteed you won't run into those weird cultist nerds.

 

[Furioso]

The Jedi.....religion...... well as long as no one worships a science fiction writer or something OH WAIT

 

[[Cold-Shoulder]]

I hope this guy is joking. I respect other peoples beliefs but this just sounds silly. But everyone has different beliefs and opinions and should be respected.
I'm rather disappointed in Tesco too for stereotyping people as criminals just because he had his hoody on indoors but I would have been suspicious of him as well in all truthfulness.
I don't know where to stand on this thread. :/

I love the replys to the article on the website:

"I'm surprised he's allowed out alone." Posted by: Ian12334

"(AHEM)
I think this chap is a tree hugger,
I don't know about Darthvader,
But certainly daftbugger.

Haw haw haw(may the sauce be with you) Haw haw haw" Posted by: THICKAS2SHORTMANCS

Pure genius.

Couldn't agree with you more.
Awesome avatar.

 

[TimeLord]

Tesco will be the one shop where you can be guaranteed you won't run into those weird cultist nerds.

Lidl is the worst for that :S

 

[kawligia]

You can kick someone out of your business just like you can kick someone out of your house. You own both of them. You don't need a good reason.

If you feel strongly about it, don't shop there anymore. Once they start to lose business, I promise you they won't do it again.

 

[Takoto]

I don't Jedi is a religon

You mean "I don't think Jedi is a religion".

 

[Phyroxis]

Your post seems to be based on the bible. If you re-read mine, I was talking about Christianity. Which is based on God. And from my point of view, God doesn't exist.

It doesn't matter, in terms of Christianity, you cannot seperate the two. The Bible is the written word of God, and is central to the faith. I don't care what you think about God, that is also not what we were discussing. Also, you failed to answer my question. Could you really say that a work intended as ficiton as opposed to a work intended as a means of divine instruction have the same credibility?

If I don't think that God exists, then neither do I think that the Bible is the written word of God. So to me, it carries about as much credibility as The Empire Strikes Back.

except the fact that you can prove many of the events in the bible. like the fact that Jesus lived, that Noah's Flood happened, that the seven plagues affected Egypt, that the Nile really did recede allowing people to cross it, that there really were pillars of fire and smoke

they are a collection of myths based on real events, it's just at the time people didn't know how to actually describe them.

yet with the Star Wars series, we can prove everything is false

Except you can't prove the Star Wars series is false.. Simply due to the first lines of each move. "A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.."

Unless you can actually explore the events of a long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away you can't actually disprove it (or conclusively prove its truth). Maybe God put the true story of what really happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, into George Lucas' head and made him believe he was creating a work of fiction which was in fact a true record of real events somewhere far away?


Utter nonsense, I'm sure, but you can't empirically prove it one way or another.

 

[EMFCRACKSHOT]

Haha this is completely silly. The world doesn't need anymore religions along these lines.
I am all for believing what you wish...but come on, you at least KNOW this one is false.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

This is a grave offence to my religion. It is complete discrimination and i will not stand for it *goes to sharpen lightsaber*

 

[cleverlymadeup]

Except you can't prove the Star Wars series is false.. Simply due to the first lines of each move. "A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.."

Unless you can actually explore the events of a long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away you can't actually disprove it (or conclusively prove its truth). Maybe God put the true story of what really happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, into George Lucas' head and made him believe he was creating a work of fiction which was in fact a true record of real events somewhere far away?


Utter nonsense, I'm sure, but you can't empirically prove it one way or another.

yes you can. the fact is if it happened a long time ago and they had the ability to travel the stars, why aren't they here right now? also why has no one here had the ability to use "the force" or have we found any evidence of midi-chlorians? you'd think in the hundreds or thousands of years we've existed, i'm sure we would have found the ability to use the force or even made contact with them

there is also the fact that the story itself is heavily borrowed from several older fictional stories as well

 

[TimeLord]

Haha this is completely silly. The world doesn't need anymore religions along these lines.
I am all for believing what you wish...but come on, you at least KNOW this one is false.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

This is a grave offence to my religion. It is complete discrimination and i will not stand for it *goes to sharpen lightsaber*

I want to argue the technical implications of sharpening a lightsaber but I think I'll decide against it