Poll: The End Justifies The Means...

[2012 Wont Happen]

In this case I do not feel the ends justify the means

 

[j0z]

Always. If killing one person saves 10, I'd do it. If performing horrible medical procedures on a few people so thousands can live better lives, I'd do it. If I was to die in some way so many more would live, I'd be comfortable with it.

I agree, if total good outweighs total bad, then yes it is justifiable.

 

[XJ-0461]

It depends on the ends and the means. For example, I wouldn't be willing to impliment the HIV "solution" presented in the OP, but I would be willing to kill a madman threatening to kill everyone in a bus.

Basically, you need to judge every situation individually.

 

[Internet Kraken]

The end always justifies the means for those that don't qualify as "the end".

Exactly. If you were going to be the one to die, I doubt you would approve of this.


Which is exactly why I believe the ends never justify the means.

 

[Xorghul]

I think it'd be more interesting to think we humans have HIV because someone had sex with a baboon.

 

[lwm3398]

Dropping a nuclear bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki ended WWII, but it killed thousands of civilians, but saved the lives of many soldiers. Does that make killing non-combatants okay because you're protecting your own soldiers?

Hey, some Japanese soldiers were saved too.

They didn't Kamikaze because they wanted to, or because they were all that patriotic, they were given enough gas to get the and crash. They probably jumped for joy at hearing they wouldn't have to fly.

 

[lwm3398]

I think it'd be more interesting to think we humans have HIV because someone had sex with a baboon.

I thought it had something to do with us using their shelters and it spread on to us.

 

[thepj]

this is the thing about humans, they claim to be logical but when it comes right down to it the fact that logic has no moral code ends up fucking up this claim and giving us no commen sence at all

 

[lwm3398]

There may be no cure ever but there may be better preventive medications

Or perhaps people will wise up already.

 

[crudus]

Few people are willing to do what needs to be done. History does not think so.

No. The ends never justify the means.

counter example: helping any number of people at the sacrifice of yourself or your comforts/needs.

 

[Xorghul]

I think it'd be more interesting to think we humans have HIV because someone had sex with a baboon.

I thought it had something to do with us using their shelters and it spread on to us.

I said, I think it'd be more interesting if humans have HIV because someone had sex with a baboon.
OK?(^_^)

 

[Skeleon]

I think it'd be more interesting to think we humans have HIV because someone had sex with a baboon.

I thought it had something to do with us using their shelters and it spread on to us.

The current theory is that it stems from hunting and eating monkey flesh.

 

[Haunted Serenity]

There may be no cure ever but there may be better preventive medications

Or perhaps people will wise up already.

Rape? don't know how that can be wised up. some people see the need to spread their affliction amongst the world because they have been sentenced to death by it

 

[Ace of Spades]

Depends on how bad the means are. If you perform a lesser evil for a greater good, then yes. If you perform a great evil disguising it with good intentions, then no.

 

[klakkat]

Since I can't put it any better, I will use a quote:

??The ends justify the means? is the coward?s way of saying ?I know it?s wrong but I did it anyway and don?t want to face the consequences.? -R.K. Milholland

In short, if you commit a crime, you are liable for it no matter the outcome. The "self defense" aspect being the only reasonable exception.

 

[Darth Pope]

There's no such thing as an absolute. It is dependent upon the situation.

 

[Snowalker]

Depends on the situation. Positive results don't always justify a negative process.

This

 

[mongolloid]

haha, im the 100th commenter to my own thread