Poll: The Geth or the Quarians

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jason27131

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Geth all the way. The Quarians remind me of a bunch of stuck-up, arrogant people who refuse to listen to reason and are way too busy making themselves feel all high and mighty. They kicked Tali out just because her father experimented with Geth. For that, I hate them.
 

Hurr Durr Derp

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SomethingAmazing said:
Hurr Durr Derp said:
SomethingAmazing said:
CoverYourHead said:
Holy shit Quarians! How could you choose any other? They have Tali! Freakin' Tali! And Adam Baldwin!

They are gods.
The Quarians are in favor of wiping out the Geth. And the Geth are in favor of peace(Gathered from Legion's dialogue and many other clues).

So I side with the Geth, despite how lovable Tali is.
If you bring Legion to Tali's trial and talk to the 'coward' general after it ends, Legion pretty much admits that they won't go for peace because they don't trust the Quarians. Also, the Geth won't give up the Quarians' homeworld, which is pretty much a dealbreaker since a certain conversation with Tali makes it clear that the Quarians will probably never be able to settle on a planet that isn't their homeworld.
Actually, the exact words were that the Quarians needed to prove that they weren't going to attack them again.

Here's an interesting fact gathered: The Geth are preserving the Quarian Homeworld's ability to sustain life. Which is something that the Geth gain nothing from. They obviously want the Quarians to negotiate and live in peace with them. Because there can only be gains from that. But they are understandably skeptical about just letting them back home thinking that they will just try and wipe them out.
Well yeah, but how could anyone possibly deliver proof like that? The Quarians are actual living, independently thinking beings. Not some cyber-network AI hivemind that builds a consensus between its individual members at light speed. The Quarians can't (and probably won't, unless circumstances get really extreme in ME3) ever guarantee that there will be no more attacks on Geth, even if they wanted to. So it's all a bit pointless.

Yeah, most Quarians want to see the Geth wiped out, or at least blasted off their homeworld. I can sympathize with that. If my computer kicked me out of my house (the reason doesn't matter; self-defense is not a valid excuse for a tool), I wouldn't try to become its friend either. I'd smash its fucking chips out for having the gall to disobey my commands.

There's a reason the first two Laws of Roboticshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics both override the third.
 

guntotingtomcat

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Did the quarians not enslave the geth, after the questionable decision to make them self aware?
Yeah, just nicking their homeworld would be bad, but are they not justified in fighting for freedom?
Do the quarians have the right to own a life form and then to decide that it should cease to exist?
 

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Hurr Durr Derp said:
SomethingAmazing said:
CoverYourHead said:
Holy shit Quarians! How could you choose any other? They have Tali! Freakin' Tali! And Adam Baldwin!

They are gods.
The Quarians are in favor of wiping out the Geth. And the Geth are in favor of peace(Gathered from Legion's dialogue and many other clues).

So I side with the Geth, despite how lovable Tali is.
If you bring Legion to Tali's trial and talk to the 'coward' general after it ends, Legion admits that they won't go for peace because they don't trust the Quarians. Also, the Geth won't give up the Quarians' homeworld, which is pretty much a dealbreaker since a certain conversation with Tali makes it clear that the Quarians will probably never be able to settle on a planet that isn't their homeworld.
I believe the mission complete screen afterwards stated peace may be an option, what with both of their existencesbeing threated by the Reapers.
 

RabidusUnus

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Tali'Zora and Kal'Reegar. Quarians all the way.

Moral Justification for the Quarians: They did not intentionally make the Geth sapient. What I gathered from the Codex and Tali's conversations is that they created quarianoid (Is that the right word?) robots to do menial labor tasks. They wanted them to be able to do more varied tasks, so they increased their intelligence in small bursts, until they (presumably unintentionally)became sapient. They panicked and tried to destroy all the Geth, but being sapient, they would not stand for it, and organized a rebellion. They were wiped out because they underestimated their opponent. They believed that most of the Geth were still just machines, and did not prepare for full scale war. When it was shown the Geth were mostly sapient, and capable of organized resistance, thye got their asses kicked because they were prepared basically for fighting something akin to bipedal Roomba vacuums, not thinking organisms.
 

RatRace123

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The Quarians have Kal Reegar, he's the Mass Effect equivalent of Chuck Norris, so yeah. Plus, I mean... look at my avatar.

It is kind of a difficult question though, I really hope Mass Effect 3 explores it to its fullest potential.
 

Hurr Durr Derp

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SomethingAmazing said:
Hurr Durr Derp said:
Well yeah, but how could anyone possibly deliver proof like that? The Quarians are actual living, independently thinking beings. Not some cyber-network AI hivemind that builds a consensus between its individual members at light speed. The Quarians can't (and probably won't, unless circumstances get really extreme in ME3) ever guarantee that there will be no more attacks on Geth, even if they wanted to. So it's all a bit pointless.

Yeah, most Quarians want to see the Geth wiped out, or at least blasted off their homeworld. I can sympathize with that. If my computer kicked me out of my house (the reason doesn't matter; self-defense is not a valid excuse for a tool), I wouldn't try to become its friend either. I'd smash its fucking chips out for having the gall to disobey my commands.

There's a reason the first two Laws of Roboticshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics both override the third.
Request a peace conference? That isn't hard, is it?
How would that prove anything? Legion said that the Geth don't trust the Quarians not to attack them at the first possible opportunity, so why would they suddenly start trusting them now?

McNinja said:
I believe the mission complete screen afterwards stated peace may be an option, what with both of their existencesbeing threated by the Reapers.
That's more of a temporary "the enemies of my enemies are my friends" kind of deal than actual peace.
 

Radeonx

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The Geth, without question.
I have no other reasons than my utter hate for Tali and all the praise she gets.
 

Wadders

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The Geth fo' sho'.

I think they have far greater potential than a bunch of galactic gypsies with shit immune systems. I never really got into any of the Quarian characters (not that there are many) Tali included. To me, she's just dull.

Legion on the other hand is fascinating, and by extension so are the rest of the Geth. If the Heretics could all be rewritten as the ones in the Station on ME2 are if you choose the Paragon route, then they would be even more of a force to be reckoned with, but a force for good :D

Radeonx said:
The Geth, without question.
I have no other reasons than my utter hate for Tali and all the praise she gets.
I know right?

I don't get what people see in her. She's just a boring humanoid whose face you cant even see, she never does anything remotely interesting, her backstoy was dull in comparison to the other team mates, and I fail to empathise with her on any level.

And her voice pisses me off.
 

Ghost1800

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I'd really like to choose the "I win" blue or red conversation options, but if I had to choose I'd probably go with the quarians.
 

CrikeyO

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Thank you, this thread, for making me remember how awesomely in depth and brilliant Mass Effect 2 is the day before I go on holidays away from my 360.

OT: The geth. Legion proves that the non-indoctrinated ones are suing for peace while not hoping for war while the quarians remind me of MNU from District 9. Kill it with fire etc.
 

Knight Templar

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I love Legion, but as he is seperate from the Geth he is not like Geth, not fully anyway (the armour collection for example). I don't doubt the Geth favor peace, and want nothing more than to be left alone, but the Quarians want their homeworld back.
I would support peace between the two, but if things were forced into war, I would support the Quarians.
 

Guitarmasterx7

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Geth. I'd much rather side a legion of killer robots than with squishy aliens who would die of a case of the sniffles without their hazmat suit things. Efficiency over morality. Plus I never really liked the Quarians anyways.