Oh? Adding something that the RPG genre has been lacking doesn't count as moving it forward? Fine then, they aren't super innovative.H0ncho said:The problem with Bioware however is that all they do is derivative cliched shit, and while they do this well (how could they not, when they have done exactly the same so many times before) they do not push the genre forward* like Black Isle didZephrC said:Sorry, but I did play Black Isle games back when they first came out, and while it's true that they're awesome and Bioware owes a lot to them, Bioware games are better. Bioware gets my vote.H0ncho said:Black Isle of course, they are practically the father of modern western crpgs. If you play their games you'll understand that Bioware's spam is nothing but pale imitations of their work.
*No, mass effect does not count as moving the genre forward, it counts as forgoing RPG elements for FPS elements. And while that can be enjoyable enough, this does not push the *rpg* genre forwards.
They still make games that are more fun.