Poll: The Halo Story
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They tried to make that case with 28 days later until they finally admitted that yes they are just fast zombies. Parasitic fungi are all well and good but that doesn't change the fact that they are reanimated corpses bent on spreading the contagion, RE: Zombies. You can't use a word like eldritch and talk about something that is meant to be scientific.Eipok Kruden said:
Plot holes solved by looking? If I have to stop playing the actual game to find out about the story then the story has been stupidly made, the game is made to convey the story to me. What purpose is there to hiding shit from me? It's not clever or interesting it's just shitty planning.
They set out to kill the jackals because the brutes... were hairier? I never got a satisfactory explanation. The halo builders build them to defeat the flood by destroying all life and, in an unbelievable act of stupidity, left samples of it in protected containers that could withstand the halos whatever. Humanity is at war with the covenant because they are jerks I guess. The master chief gets and armour and shield upgrade at the begining of halo 2 and is now less resistant to any form of damage but later survives atmospheric re-entry AND unslowed planet fall without a single injury. And don't get me started on Cortana...
The games? Tripe. Everything else, never bothered. I can't be arsed to bother with a patchwork of pretentious convoluted cash grabbing in novel/comic/cartoon form ad nauseum.
If it matters (it doesn't) I'm a picky reader and hard to please.
If it matters (it doesn't) I'm a picky reader and hard to please.
Well, does anyone know who the Precursors are? I don't think so. Not even the Forerunners knew who they were. We might find out something about them in the Forerunner trilogy, but the first book hasn't been released yet. Other than that nitpick, I totally agree with you. There is so much more detail just under the surface. There are even little audio files that play if you're in a certain place (I love that bit Marty put in in the scarab encounter on the Ark. That little piece is one of my favorite songs ever. It's just such a perfect melody.). Although that isn't exactly related to the Halo story... lolPnut Dancer said:
It's got an interesting backstory and universe, but story? Eh. I'm kinda in the middle on this one.
I never read much into it from the two games I played... there are all these alien rings or something in space that are some ultimate weapon or something. Oh, and there was that stupid robot that was trying to kill all humans to kill off the zombie things in what was the worst level in the history of FPS gaming.
I never stopped playing. I didn't even pause. I just thought a bit about it and figured it out. It's not like I had to pause and look it up in the Halo Encyclopedia (which, to be honest, I don't even have). I just put myself in the Hierarchs' shoes for a bit and thought about it from their point of view.manythings said:
Also, the zombies from 28 Weeks Later ARE just zombies. They aren't reanimated flesh, they're still perfectly alive, they just have a virus. They're more like unintelligent versions of the Reavers from Firefly/Serenity. They don't have any sort of plan, no organizational structure, no hive mind or ruler, no goal, they're just really angry people that act like zombies by way of some freaky virus.
And what the fuck are you talking about with the brutes killing jackals? The Jiralhanae never declared any sort of war on the Kig-Yar... For the most part, the Kig-Yar sided with the Covenant Loyalists in the Civil War. I don't even understand your question. Unless you're talking about why the Jiralhanae attacked the Sangheili, but that was because of that bastard Truth and his selfish machinations.
And wait a second, what are you talking about "less resistant to any form of damage"? The shields took more damage and recharged faster and you didn't have to worry about healthy packs anymore. He became MORE resilient with Halo 2. And the reason he survived the fall from the dreadnought was because his armor locked up and its gel layer hardened. Even with that, a normal human would have died instantly, their bones shattered. He survived because his muscles are ten times denser and his bones are covered in a layer of a ceramic composite, making them even harder than steel. Even with all his augmentations, it's a miracle (not an actual godly miracle, just really amazing) he survived. He was knocked unconscious and I think his heart nearly stopped. Hell, he had internal bleeding for much of Halo 3. Probably broke quite a few bones too.
And what's wrong with Cortana?
If we are only talking about Halo's story with no added backstory from the books, than I would say that it was a decent sci-fi story that had some potential but ended up wasting most of it. I have never read the books but from what I hear, they clear up a lot of the holes in the general story of the halo series. A story about a super soldier, the last of his kind, destroying an ancient relic from the past(halo) to prevent the covanent from firing it and in turn, obliterating everything.
When you look at it, it seems quite interesting, as the covenant treat halo as a religous object, theres a few twists and turns, most of which involve the covenant. I just dont think the creaters tried hard enough to make us (the player) get that "oh...my...god.." feeling from any of the plot turns. I mean how many of you actualy was affected by the attack of the covenant on the human settlment in the second game (second level I think)? It was more of a "hey look...more aliens, lets shoot em!". Instead of a "OH MY GOD THEY ARE ATTACKING! WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE CITY!!!"
When you look at it, it seems quite interesting, as the covenant treat halo as a religous object, theres a few twists and turns, most of which involve the covenant. I just dont think the creaters tried hard enough to make us (the player) get that "oh...my...god.." feeling from any of the plot turns. I mean how many of you actualy was affected by the attack of the covenant on the human settlment in the second game (second level I think)? It was more of a "hey look...more aliens, lets shoot em!". Instead of a "OH MY GOD THEY ARE ATTACKING! WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE CITY!!!"
Space opera is a term for a story that could exist in any time frame, but is arbitrarily set in space for the sake of drawing in a few cheap sales.
Halo is so completely space opera, that merriam webster may as well append the definition of space opera with "halo." The fact the game drops biblical names like they're candy onto various parallel concepts simply proves this further. That, alone, doesn't mean its bad. The fact bungie originally had to commission novels (story sold separately) is what makes it bad.
Halo is so completely space opera, that merriam webster may as well append the definition of space opera with "halo." The fact the game drops biblical names like they're candy onto various parallel concepts simply proves this further. That, alone, doesn't mean its bad. The fact bungie originally had to commission novels (story sold separately) is what makes it bad.
See section in bold. I figure you have to love the game to care about the books, and I don't love the game. They've all been mediocre at best, but that's just my opinion. Coop was tops, tons of fun, but as a stand alone shooter it's always felt a bit of like a parody of the genre it's trying to fit into, kind of like Starship Troopers.Korten12 said:
Meh. It's okay. Not terrible, but nothing special either. I suppose it does its job.
This is just going on the games. I haven't bothered with any of the extended universe stuff and I never will. I suppose it's possible that there is an astounding sci-fi epic out there, full to bursting with compelling characters and interesting themes. But somehow I doubt it.
This is just going on the games. I haven't bothered with any of the extended universe stuff and I never will. I suppose it's possible that there is an astounding sci-fi epic out there, full to bursting with compelling characters and interesting themes. But somehow I doubt it.
The biggest problem i have the Halo's story is that it seems a little skitzofrenic. You see every time they actually begin to introduce and flesh out a concept, its abandonned and moved on to a new problem. The Covenent could have been really interesting opponents. A religious crusade perceiving humanity as a thread to religious ideology (could have been something like Stargate's Ori). Instead of persuing that they made their standard troopers into comic relief characters, similtaneously killing that faction's credibility as a serious threat and relegating them to a sideplot. They then move into the Flood, a race of parasitic space aliens who could overrun the galaxy if it were not for an ancient alien race preventing them last time (again see Stargate, Babylon 5, Star Trek etc etc). Instead of fleshing out the ancient race and the flood, all we fully see is that the Halo device is that its the device from...you guessed it, Stargate. Used to wipe out life.
While this is fine, switching BACK to the covenant, who have established as a side problem and trying to make them a focus of the story didnt work. They had no crediblity as a threat.
While this is fine, switching BACK to the covenant, who have established as a side problem and trying to make them a focus of the story didnt work. They had no crediblity as a threat.