Poll: The System Works. Skyrim vs. COD: MW3
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Because my personal opinion does not factor in to this discussion. The discussion is Sales vs Majority Opinion. It is not a game breaker, he is not wise. As it so happened, I have played both, Skyrim was better in my opinion. This isn't about one opinion. This is how you judge a game on a MASS SCALE.SL33TBL1ND said:Fuck. That was quick. I was expecting this at least 3 posts down.cyrogeist said:
"Cyrogeist, we're done here."
No. I was commending you for posting the correct answer.cyrogeist said:
You can't.DailonCmann said:
Actually, it does. You claim that "0 spamming" brought down the score. More people voted poorly than well, even if they had picked any number other than zero, the negative review would have been given, it would not have saved. It wasn't skewed, more people voted negatively.Radeonx said:
That doesn't necessarily speak to the quality of the game; that is simply an indication that the people who hate CoD are far more vociferous in expressing their opinion.DailonCmann said:
In other words, of the people who bothered to comment on Metacritic, more of them strongly disliked CoD. That does not mean more people hate it - you would have to take into consideration the opinion's of all 7 million people who purchased MW3 in order to conclusively determine that.
Then how does any business get down? How does anyone decide that one game is good and another bad? Why is Pacman good, while Charlie and the Chocolate Factory bad? This whole personal opinion invalidates majority and sales is not valid. If your personal opinion is for something, then it factors into a Majority Opinion. One opinion does not matter, many opinions do.SL33TBL1ND said:
Only like-minded opinions matter. That isn't on a mass scale. If you want to know whether you'd like a game, you check with someone who likes similar things to you, or a reviewer that you feel has similar opinions. Checking either sales data or how many fanboys to haters there are on Metacritic is a waste of your time.DailonCmann said:
The same can be said for local government, those who bother to show up gets counted.SonicKoala said:
Elaborating on it. You've hit on the major flaw with the majority opinion aspect of the argument and it's a very good point.SonicKoala said:
How do I tell which game is better before buying? I watch videos of them on Youtube, and I read up about them on independent websites. Neither sales nor Metacritic rating are a reliable way of telling which is a better game for me, nor a better game overall (As if such a thing could exist).
It's not about which game is better for you, it's overall which game is better. These things do exist. At the end of the day, which game is better from an unbiased view and which point of reference is the best to judge it from? That's the question.Joccaren said:
There needs to be an "other" option in the poll. Honestly, the best way to judge a game if you haven't played it already is by doing research about it. Things like gameplay demos, interviews with the creators, and trailers are the best way to tell if you are going to like a game. In both other ideas of basing opinions on sales or majority opinion, you're going to get let down because those are not always accurate indicators of your personal interest.
However, if I have to choose one I would go with forming preconceptions around what internet reviewers say since they usually thoroughly explain why the game is good or bad and you can decide from there if the game is worth your time.
However, if I have to choose one I would go with forming preconceptions around what internet reviewers say since they usually thoroughly explain why the game is good or bad and you can decide from there if the game is worth your time.
The way I see it it's the majoritys opinion that decides which game is better.
I mean CoD could easily make one of the shittiest games and use all the screen shots and stuff from their 2 newest games (I mean they make on purpose a really bad game) and it would still sell more than your average Zelda game, but the users would of course be pissed!
If then again we watch the users popularity of the game and we say about 500 000 people play this game and they give the average score of 96 / 100 then that means that game has to be (for some people) one of the best games out there.
Just because the brand is a huge thing and it gets you money it doesn't mean everything you do is good. This is how I view this.
I mean CoD could easily make one of the shittiest games and use all the screen shots and stuff from their 2 newest games (I mean they make on purpose a really bad game) and it would still sell more than your average Zelda game, but the users would of course be pissed!
If then again we watch the users popularity of the game and we say about 500 000 people play this game and they give the average score of 96 / 100 then that means that game has to be (for some people) one of the best games out there.
Just because the brand is a huge thing and it gets you money it doesn't mean everything you do is good. This is how I view this.