Poll: The use of '******' in Yahtzee videos

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nyeeh

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Perfice said:
[...]Now don't get me wrong, you may be sitting at your computer saying 'I've never heard anyone use gay as an offensive word and I have lots of gay friends.' That may be true, because believe it or not everywhere you go people have different views and lifestyles.
An example of gay being used as an insult would be highly religious communities/areas (such as a catholic all boys high school). Honestly, those places can be brutal.

Anyway, RE Yahtzee's use of ******, I'm gay and it never bothered me.

Really, it's all about context. He's only using the word for the sake of humor and never in a homophobic ranty hate filled way. When the word is used for humorous purposes, or just casually among friends. I find it hard to get mad. A great example (which doubles as an excelent summary of my view on the word) is Chris Rock's discussion on the appropriate use of the word ******:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZha8DXS-Cs

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[...]You don?t have to be gay to act like a ******. You don?t even have to be a man to act like a ******. Anybody can act like a ******.

Let me give you an example: I love Gwen Stefani. I think No Doubt is one of the best groups in the world; I keep a No Doubt CD in my car [...] Now, if I?m drivin? my car, and I?m at the light, and you in the car behind me, and the light?s red, and I?m just sittin? there blasting some Gwen Stefani? and you in the car behind me and the light?s red?cool.

But then the light turns green. And I don?t see it, because I?m in Gwen Stefani heaven. And I?m just goin? ?Ain?t no hollaback girl! Ain?t no hollaback!? Now the light starts fuckin? blinking! It?s gettin? ready to turn red again, and I *still* don?t see it, and I?m in my car going ?This sh*t is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!? ? Now if you in the car behind me, and that light?s gettin? ready to turn red, and I?m going ?this sh*t is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!? If you in the car behind me, you have the right to go ?HEY, ******! The light?s about to change!? Shit, even Elton John would call me a f**got at that moment.

It?s not the word, it?s the context in which the word is bein? said!
 

Perfice

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nyeeh said:
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An example of gay being used as an insult would be highly religious communities/areas (such as a catholic all boys high school). Honestly, those places can be brutal.

Anyway, RE Yahtzee's use of ******, I'm gay and it never bothered me.

Really, it's all about context. He's only using the word for the sake of humor and never in a homophobic ranty hate filled way. When the word is used for humorous purposes, or just casually among friends. I find it hard to get mad. A great example (which doubles as an excelent summary of my view on the word) is Chris Rock's discussion on the appropriate use of the word ******:

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Well, I'm not saying that the use of the word should be considered offensive. I'm just saying don't try calling people idiots just because they get offended by different things than you. My friend has a picture of Hitler with an XBox Achievement box underneath that says something like '7 Million Kills.' I find it hilarious but if a jewish friend told me they were offended then I wouldn't say they were stupid for it.
 

CODE-D

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I agree with louis CK, the comedian
the word ****** is just fun to use for everybody despite sexual orientation, it rolls off the tongue.
Also chris rock, "You can act like a ****** and not be gay. Sometimes I act like a ****** especially when no doubt is playin"
 

AvsJoe

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Y'know, I've never noticed it. Just like I don't notice most curse words, like the F-Bomb and the C-nuke (friendly Canuck). For the most part, I'm desensitized to "naughty language".
 

Asuka Soryu

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ReservoirAngel said:
AceAngel said:
Um...yeah...why did you single out that specific term exactly out of the countless ones from Yahtzee's videos?
It was mentioned to me by a gay friend of mine after I recommended Yahtzee to him. He noticed Yahtzee's first use of the word and made a big deal of it. I figured it was interesting that he got so pissed off with the word but I didn't, so I thought I'd make this topic, like the desperate online-attention-seeking loser that I am.
Your friends to serious, he's making me delerious.


Well, some people find offense, when no offence was intended.


Eh, my father freaks out when he hears swearing, yet he swears sooo much.


All I know is, Yahtzee says it like he says like any other swear, I highly doubt he's trying to insult Homosexual people.
 

darksakul

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I think Yahtzee doesn't swear enough, its like his mom is in hearing range when he records for his videos
 

Asuka Soryu

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It's quite sad that words have becomes so powerful. Especialy since each word started out without a value, it took a person to come up with it and try and make it commonly spoke. Then it took listneres to react the way he/she wanted to said word.

*****, bastard, these weren't swears, they were just another term for something but then people used them as insults.

The best way to kill an insult is to recognise it as a word, a sound. Nothing solid and you shouldn't let it effect you. You're the one who gives the word the strength to offend and hurt you.
 

Plurralbles

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I would question if one of us would be banned for using the word.

And your friends might just be a pathetic asshat. can't be sure though.

No one should be offended by language, at least be offended by the intent behind it and not just the words chosen.
 

Vanalosswen

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zehydra said:
I've never noticed him say it actually. I might if I was gay, and I'd probably be offended by his use of the word "****" if I was female. But I'm neither.
I am female, and only mind "****" if it's directed at me personally by someone I know. Since Yahtzee doesn't know me from Adam (or Eve, I guess), and his use of the term is pretty hilarious anyway, I'm not at all offended.
 

Naheal

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Let's just realize that Yahtzee often takes a refuge in vulgarity [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RefugeInVulgarity].
 

Racecarlock

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Simply tell your friend to not be so sensitive. Things are getting less and less censored now, on the internet, tv, and radio. So either he learns to not flip out at everything offensive to him or he flips out all the time in the future, or hell, even now. Freedom of speech is impossible to deny, especially on the internet.
 

Guitarmasterx7

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Short answer, no.

Long answer, personally I think if you get offended at anything not directed specifically at you you're either the biggest fucking pussy to ever exist or your disingenuously pretending to be offended based on principle.

I can't fully claim to understand how black people or gays feel when the word "******" or "******" gets thrown around, but these words only have power if you choose to give them power. It's not like they're some kind of kryptonite. Hell, the words don't even have any real meaning other that "black" or "gay," they're just offensive because they're labeled as "derogatory." Though I do have a bit of an issue with "******" being regarded as the gay's equivalent to "******," because that word harkens back to the days of slavery which is really the only thing that I think should give it any weight at all, but i could do a whole rant on why "******" is overplayed all its own.

Anyways, I can understand getting offended if someone is using the word maliciously to discriminate against you, but taking offense to the indistinct use of a word as a joke in an internet video just seems fucking ridiculous to me, and if anybody legitimately is that delicate, then getting through life is going to be a nightmare for them.
 

Ellen of Kitten

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Freezy_Breezy said:
****** has not been exclusive to gays for a loooooong time now.
I was in high school 7 years ago. It was used 7 years ago to address me. It hasn't been that long. It's recent enough to still be fresh in plenty of peoples minds as a derogitory term against homosexuals. We've got more time to go before it ceases to be [em]considered[/em] a gay-exclusive insult.
 

SinisterGehe

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Since when being offended was
ReservoirAngel said:
I actually find it funny in it's own way. My gay friend flipped out like fuck over it and refuses to watch Yahtzee now cause he thinks he's a homophobic bastard.
Since when being offended was a bad thing? Did he wake up one day and had physical ill of some sort because he was offended? People who get offended by words need to grow up. Words are punch of symbols with tied meaning to them.

Example:
****** = Offensive word in English.
Fagotti = Bassoon in Finnish.

Is the part of word "******-" offensive even if it is tied to another language or to a word?
I once got a warning in Wow by Gamemaster because I had a guild named; "Fagotin soittajat" (Translated to English "Bassoon players"), Because my friend teaches me to play Bassoon (as my 3rd instrument of choice) and we though t would been nice way of showing cultural identity in multicultural setting, but no, I got a warning because I wanted to use my own mother language which has a word that has a aesthetic appearance of offensive word.

Reason why I am not offended by any particular words is that in my language, In Finnish which is my first language. Is simply because in Finnish there are no offensive words, expect the word (Pardon me, this is not intended to be offensive I am making a point of cultural relativism) Neekeri" = "******". And that is considered offensive only because it is set in law as so due to immigrant crisis in late 90's. But in Finnish every word is neutral without meaning unless they are directed to something if I just say "Huora" (Whore) without referring it to a woman, it is considered to be someone who attempts to gain benefit by questionable means or as a verb (Huoraaminen) it is that someone keeps doing something that is considered to be distasteful.

I would like to ask you friend, with all my respect towards living human beings to not be offended. Because if he is offended, he can give you a image of himself to others that he considers himself to be something different or better than others. Which can be considered offensive to me since my philosophical thoughts of human value is that everyone is just a worthless and no one is privileged or special.

Since when did "Stick and stones may break my bones..." lose its relevance?
And if it a issue to you. Give others back what they give to you, if you get hurt by their words, you can hurt them with your words. Therefor you are equals.

And people who are part of minority of any kind (Like I am, I identify myself as Asexual and sex in media and sexism makes me sick), stop being offended and stop considering yourself to be something special or different, we are all people, human beings. We do not all need to be friends we just need to get along.

And in my opinion of Yahtzee: No he is not offensive since he just a much of an douche to everyone as he is to himself.

Should we remove everything from out culture, language and media that can be considered to be offensive to anyone any way. Just think what our societies will look like.

And pardon my language and grammar. I hope no one gets "offended" by my grammar since it is not my mother tongue.

Don't bother saying TMI to me, I don't care I said what I though was necesary to make a point.