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Amnestic post=18.73764.808761 said:
the zombies would swarm, no matter how stong a vampire is (they've never seemed all that great to be honest) they just couldn't handle the numbers and once you're eaten you can regenerate, unless they could regrow all limbs but if that was the case why haven't vampires just cut themselves in half infinately to make an army of themselves
Vampires can, in addition to moving really freaking fast, jump quite high. You can't swarm what you can't catch. Zombies are slow and lumbering. As I've said, a group of vampires, or even one, could easily win a war of atrition against the zombies.
And vampires can cling to (and climb) walls, as well, making zombies even less of a threat to them.
 

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Okay, because no one has answered my question, I will assume that the vampires are not ninjas and the zombies are not pirates, so I say vampires win. Zombies cannot think, however vampires can. The vampires get the idea to stock up on chainsaws, and then they go around killing the zombies with them at rapid speed. Vampires win, end of story.
 

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Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808766 said:
A lost limb would be a major wound. Atleast a vampire can regenerate. Zombies are forced to walk with every little scratch, vamps can regenerate muscle tissue and other wounds.
yes but the inital wound would hurt the vampire where a zombie would be unaffected, zombies don't feel pain so the instant they're hit they keep going a vampire would react and in those precious seconds the zombies would overtake
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808760 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808735 said:
Everyone ignores that vampires can move at seemingly the speed of light and can punch through a concrete wall.
do you have any idea of the enegry it would take to move even close to the speed of light, a vampire would have to be constantly bloated with blood to even move at mach 1
A vampire is an otherworldly creature. It's energy is stored in the nether realm not it's body. Zombies are reanimated corpses, they just use the energy of the body untill it is all but destroyed befor the muscles collapse and they can't move.

And there is a mntal limiter in all animals which forces us to use 20% of out muscle strenght or else your muscles would tear. Zombies and vampires lack this mental restirction.
 

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L1250 post=18.73764.808783 said:
Okay, because no one has answered my question, I will assume that the vampires are not ninjas and the zombies are not pirates, so I say vampires win. Zombies cannot think, however vampires can. The vampires get the idea to stock up on chainsaws, and then they go around killing the zombies with them at rapid speed. Vampires win, end of story.
have you ever tried to effectively swing a chainsaw while it's running. it would do way more damage to you than to your intended target
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808784 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808766 said:
A lost limb would be a major wound. Atleast a vampire can regenerate. Zombies are forced to walk with every little scratch, vamps can regenerate muscle tissue and other wounds.
yes but the inital wound would hurt the vampire where a zombie would be unaffected, zombies don't feel pain so the instant they're hit they keep going a vampire would react and in those precious seconds the zombies would overtake
Again: Moving really freaking fast and jumping really freaking high. You seem to be under the impression the vampire would get bitten by the zombies, I don't think that's possible considering a zombie's laughable speed.
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808784 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808766 said:
A lost limb would be a major wound. Atleast a vampire can regenerate. Zombies are forced to walk with every little scratch, vamps can regenerate muscle tissue and other wounds.
yes but the inital wound would hurt the vampire where a zombie would be unaffected, zombies don't feel pain so the instant they're hit they keep going a vampire would react and in those precious seconds the zombies would overtake
It's not a question of pain. Vampires can withstand unfathomable pain. It's about the actual damage. It all adds up, a zombie will degrade and fall apart after a few attacks while a vampire will regerate his body after feeding.
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808789 said:
L1250 post=18.73764.808783 said:
Okay, because no one has answered my question, I will assume that the vampires are not ninjas and the zombies are not pirates, so I say vampires win. Zombies cannot think, however vampires can. The vampires get the idea to stock up on chainsaws, and then they go around killing the zombies with them at rapid speed. Vampires win, end of story.
have you ever tried to effectively swing a chainsaw while it's running. it would do way more damage to you than to your intended target
Very well, the vampires use shotguns, then.
 

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Amnestic post=18.73764.808794 said:
(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808784 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808766 said:
A lost limb would be a major wound. Atleast a vampire can regenerate. Zombies are forced to walk with every little scratch, vamps can regenerate muscle tissue and other wounds.
yes but the inital wound would hurt the vampire where a zombie would be unaffected, zombies don't feel pain so the instant they're hit they keep going a vampire would react and in those precious seconds the zombies would overtake
Again: Moving really freaking fast and jumping really freaking high. You seem to be under the impression the vampire would get bitten by the zombies, I don't think that's possible considering a zombie's laughable speed.
Only fledgling vampires (newborns and newly converted) would be caught out where they accidently got cocky and didn't move around. And they would need to be completely overwhelmed.
 

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L1250 post=18.73764.808803 said:
(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808789 said:
L1250 post=18.73764.808783 said:
Okay, because no one has answered my question, I will assume that the vampires are not ninjas and the zombies are not pirates, so I say vampires win. Zombies cannot think, however vampires can. The vampires get the idea to stock up on chainsaws, and then they go around killing the zombies with them at rapid speed. Vampires win, end of story.
have you ever tried to effectively swing a chainsaw while it's running. it would do way more damage to you than to your intended target
Very well, the vampires use shotguns, then.
Rifles would be better. Get to where the zombies can't go and snipe the zombies.
 

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Crabs. Giant Enemy Crabs. Zombies wouldn't be fast enough to flip them on their backs, and vampires would break their teeth on the crabs' hard shells.
 

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Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808814 said:
L1250 post=18.73764.808803 said:
(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808789 said:
L1250 post=18.73764.808783 said:
Okay, because no one has answered my question, I will assume that the vampires are not ninjas and the zombies are not pirates, so I say vampires win. Zombies cannot think, however vampires can. The vampires get the idea to stock up on chainsaws, and then they go around killing the zombies with them at rapid speed. Vampires win, end of story.
have you ever tried to effectively swing a chainsaw while it's running. it would do way more damage to you than to your intended target
Very well, the vampires use shotguns, then.
Rifles would be better. Get to where the zombies can't go and snipe the zombies.
That is another possibility. Or better yet, a few vampires take on the zombies at close range while others provide sniper fire for support, or some other similar tactic.
 

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L1250 post=18.73764.808833 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808814 said:
L1250 post=18.73764.808803 said:
(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808789 said:
L1250 post=18.73764.808783 said:
Okay, because no one has answered my question, I will assume that the vampires are not ninjas and the zombies are not pirates, so I say vampires win. Zombies cannot think, however vampires can. The vampires get the idea to stock up on chainsaws, and then they go around killing the zombies with them at rapid speed. Vampires win, end of story.
have you ever tried to effectively swing a chainsaw while it's running. it would do way more damage to you than to your intended target
Very well, the vampires use shotguns, then.
Rifles would be better. Get to where the zombies can't go and snipe the zombies.
That is another possibility. Or better yet, a few vampires take on the zombies at close range while others provide sniper fire for support, or some other similar tactic.
The snipers could have a code word. The CQB guys jump up to avoid the sniper fire.
 

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why do you keep thinking that vampires have this huge collective, only a few times i've seen any structure, they always work alone whereas zombies hunt the same prey. as for this jumping buisiness, they can propel themselves to this huge height but what about when they land? even a fall of a few stories can severly criple you. and also they can regenerate when they feed but if there are only a few survivors feeding can't be done on a regular basis.
also sorry for the delay but i had to spend time with my girlfriend, she doesn't understand the urgency of this argument
 

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Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808854 said:
L1250 post=18.73764.808833 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808814 said:
L1250 post=18.73764.808803 said:
(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808789 said:
L1250 post=18.73764.808783 said:
Okay, because no one has answered my question, I will assume that the vampires are not ninjas and the zombies are not pirates, so I say vampires win. Zombies cannot think, however vampires can. The vampires get the idea to stock up on chainsaws, and then they go around killing the zombies with them at rapid speed. Vampires win, end of story.
have you ever tried to effectively swing a chainsaw while it's running. it would do way more damage to you than to your intended target
Very well, the vampires use shotguns, then.
Rifles would be better. Get to where the zombies can't go and snipe the zombies.
That is another possibility. Or better yet, a few vampires take on the zombies at close range while others provide sniper fire for support, or some other similar tactic.
The snipers could have a code word. The CQB guys jump up to avoid the sniper fire.
I was thinking of something more along the lines of the shotgun-vampires clearing out the horde and the sniper-vampires taking out any zombies that try to overwhelm the shotgun-vampires, but that's another effective strategy.
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808889 said:
why do you keep thinking that vampires have this huge collective, only a few times i've seen any structure, they always work alone whereas zombies hunt the same prey. as for this jumping buisiness, they can propel themselves to this huge height but what about when they land? even a fall of a few stories can severly criple you. and also they can regenerate when they feed but if there are only a few survivors feeding can't be done on a regular basis.
also sorry for the delay but i had to spend time with my girlfriend, she doesn't understand the urgency of this argument
I never said there were large groupings. I've maintained that there would be small groups of 3-4 as vampire work well in teams but are independant and split up quite often, but united against a common enemy rather than a prey they could work effectivly until food was really scarce. And stop ignoring that vampires can feed on any mammal, not only humans.
 

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L1250 post=18.73764.808896 said:
I was thinking of something more along the lines of the shotgun-vampires clearing out the horde and the sniper-vampires taking out any zombies that try to overwhelm the shotgun-vampires, but that's another effective strategy.
shotguns are really ineffective against zombies since you need to hit the brain and shotguns spread out the pellets. you really need to study up on your weaponry
either read zombie survival guide or read this http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/?t=anon
 

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L1250 post=18.73764.808896 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808854 said:
L1250 post=18.73764.808833 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808814 said:
L1250 post=18.73764.808803 said:
(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808789 said:
L1250 post=18.73764.808783 said:
Okay, because no one has answered my question, I will assume that the vampires are not ninjas and the zombies are not pirates, so I say vampires win. Zombies cannot think, however vampires can. The vampires get the idea to stock up on chainsaws, and then they go around killing the zombies with them at rapid speed. Vampires win, end of story.
have you ever tried to effectively swing a chainsaw while it's running. it would do way more damage to you than to your intended target
Very well, the vampires use shotguns, then.
Rifles would be better. Get to where the zombies can't go and snipe the zombies.
That is another possibility. Or better yet, a few vampires take on the zombies at close range while others provide sniper fire for support, or some other similar tactic.
The snipers could have a code word. The CQB guys jump up to avoid the sniper fire.
I was thinking of something more along the lines of the shotgun-vampires clearing out the horde and the sniper-vampires taking out any zombies that try to overwhelm the shotgun-vampires, but that's another effective strategy.
And while the vampires make these on the fly strategies the zombie horde would be lumbering in random directions searching for humans.
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808912 said:
L1250 post=18.73764.808896 said:
I was thinking of something more along the lines of the shotgun-vampires clearing out the horde and the sniper-vampires taking out any zombies that try to overwhelm the shotgun-vampires, but that's another effective strategy.
shotguns are really ineffective against zombies since you need to hit the brain and shotguns spread out the pellets. you really need to study up on your weaponry
either read zombie survival guide or read this http://www.zombiesurvivalwiki.com/?t=anon
A zombie can't do much when it's torso is removed.
 

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Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808908 said:
And stop ignoring that vampires can feed on any mammal, not only humans.
i'm ignoring it because i've never heard of vampires feeding on anything but people