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Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808923 said:
A zombie can't do much when it's torso is removed.
unless you destroy the brain it will keep going, it can't do much but in the heat of battle would you really watch to make sure you aren't near any heads or would you focus on the undead killing machine coming at you?
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808924 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808908 said:
And stop ignoring that vampires can feed on any mammal, not only humans.
i'm ignoring it because i've never heard of vampires feeding on anything but people
You've never heard of vampires feeding on rats? Man, you've missed out! Vampires most commonly drink the blood of rats when there is no human source available (you know, like with Anne Rice's vampires....*shudder*......)

I'm not sure about other animals though.....
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808924 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808908 said:
And stop ignoring that vampires can feed on any mammal, not only humans.
i'm ignoring it because i've never heard of vampires feeding on anything but people
You don't know your vampires then. They feed on human blood as it is te best for them and tastes the best. They drink other blood when no humans are available or they have stopped drinking human blood.
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808931 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808923 said:
A zombie can't do much when it's torso is removed.
unless you destroy the brain it will keep going, it can't do much but in the heat of battle would you really watch to make sure you aren't near any heads or would you focus on the undead killing machine coming at you?
Don't forget that vampires are majorly supernaturally undead killing machines, too.....And they're much more dangerous than zombies, especially in a group.
 
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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808924 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808908 said:
And stop ignoring that vampires can feed on any mammal, not only humans.
i'm ignoring it because i've never heard of vampires feeding on anything but people
Well apart from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_bat; mammals or birds.

Even Renfield in the original book fed off rats.

On zombies

unless you destroy the brain it will keep going, it can't do much but in the heat of battle would you really watch to make sure you aren't near any heads or would you focus on the undead killing machine coming at you?

Depends on the sort of zombies...Zuvembies would keep coming unless they have no means of traction; and the traditional zombie fighting tool is a shotgun. Chula/Vashta Nerada Zombies would still keep coming sans brain.

If we're talking classic Stoker/Romero; Zombies would win because they have the advantage of daylight; and you can't embrace a dead body but you can zombify a living corpse.
 

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Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808935 said:
You don't know your vampires then. They feed on human blood as it is te best for them and tastes the best. They drink other blood when no humans are available or they have stopped drinking human blood.
jamanticus post=18.73764.808934 said:
You've never heard of vampires feeding on rats? Man, you've missed out! Vampires most commonly drink the blood of rats when there is no human source available (you know, like with Anne Rice's vampires....*shudder*......)

I'm not sure about other animals though.....
how much sustanance can you really derive from the blood of rats, nothing,, not near enough to gain anything i'd reckon. also I guess i don't know that much about vampires if that is the case but i have seen quite a bit and i've yet to see that.
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808931 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808923 said:
A zombie can't do much when it's torso is removed.
unless you destroy the brain it will keep going, it can't do much but in the heat of battle would you really watch to make sure you aren't near any heads or would you focus on the undead killing machine coming at you?
Yes a decapitated zombie head is so scary. Zombies don't stand a chance as they aren't otherworldly. Vampires can use otherworldly powers (not magic)
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808949 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808935 said:
You don't know your vampires then. They feed on human blood as it is te best for them and tastes the best. They drink other blood when no humans are available or they have stopped drinking human blood.
jamanticus post=18.73764.808934 said:
You've never heard of vampires feeding on rats? Man, you've missed out! Vampires most commonly drink the blood of rats when there is no human source available (you know, like with Anne Rice's vampires....*shudder*......)

I'm not sure about other animals though.....
how much sustanance can you really derive from the blood of rats, nothing,, not near enough to gain anything i'd reckon. also I guess i don't know that much about vampires if that is the case but i have seen quite a bit and i've yet to see that.
Vampires capture rats easily using shadows. Vampires have limited control over the shadows. And it's not only rats. Birds, pigs, sheep, most mammals really.
 

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Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808951 said:
Yes a decapitated zombie head is so scary. Zombies don't stand a chance as they aren't otherworldly. Vampires can use otherworldly powers (not magic)
lets try to keep this simple as i could talk about all the zombies hat have super strenth and speed etc. but i dont because i wanna keep this to basic zombies v.s basic vampires
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808965 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808951 said:
Yes a decapitated zombie head is so scary. Zombies don't stand a chance as they aren't otherworldly. Vampires can use otherworldly powers (not magic)
lets try to keep this simple as i could talk about all the zombies hat have super strenth and speed etc. but i dont because i wanna keep this to basic zombies v.s basic vampires
Basic vampires are rather complex.
 

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crabs because A) vampires need blood to survive which zombies do not have B)zombies will evencually eat themselves to death or rot over a million years leaving crabs the victor
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808975 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808972 said:
Basic vampires are rather complex.
but they dont have magical powers or feed of rats or jump insane heights and have insane speed
the basics of vampies is that they ARE fast, strong and feed on mammals. I never said magic. I said otherworldly powers, nothing to do with magic. Otherworldly powers use energ from the netherworld to alter aspects of this one.
 

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Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808982 said:
the basics of vampies is that they ARE fast, strong and feed on mammals. I never said magic. I said otherworldly powers, nothing to do with magic. Otherworldly powers use energ from the netherworld to alter aspects of this one.
yeah but not to the levels you've claimed, as for netherworld powers, we're talking about living in the real world and here there is no god or satan or netherworld so they cannot exist. anything that can jump that high would be crushed on landing at wouldn't be able to just regenerate unless they feed but how would they feed with nothing around to feed off of and you cant move at super speed without an amount of energy thats impossible to contain in the human body
 

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I'm going to be immature and say zombies, simply because I like them. Vampires are boring to me.

Plus, I can't get the image of sparkling vampires out of my head. Hard to take them seriously.
 

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(ZHU) Michael post=18.73764.808988 said:
Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808982 said:
the basics of vampies is that they ARE fast, strong and feed on mammals. I never said magic. I said otherworldly powers, nothing to do with magic. Otherworldly powers use energ from the netherworld to alter aspects of this one.
yeah but not to the levels you've claimed, as for netherworld powers, we're talking about living in the real world and here there is no god or satan or netherworld so they cannot exist. anything that can jump that high would be crushed on landing at wouldn't be able to just regenerate unless they feed but how would they feed with nothing around to feed off of
God and satan have nothing to do with the netherworld. The nether world is a parallel world which can transfere energy to and from this one.

And I'm not saying they jump hundreds of feet into the air, and you can't judge vampires by movies as the actors were severly limited in them.
 

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Noamuth post=18.73764.808992 said:
Plus, I can't get the image of sparkling vampires out of my head. Hard to take them seriously.
Would thinking of sparkling zombies help to at least think of them with the same (low) level of dignity?
 

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Janus Vesta post=18.73764.808995 said:
God and satan have nothing to do with the netherworld. The nether world is a parallel world which can transfere energy to and from this one.

And I'm not saying they jump hundreds of feet into the air, and you can't judge vampires by movies as the actors were severly limited in them.
you can't just say oh they have netherworld powers so they can do magic but it's not magic so it's real. there's no proof that the netherworld exists, even in vampire fiction it's used and unused at the authors choice.
as for the jumping you say they have it, then they dont because i'm right, if it's in then fine but they can't ever use it and if its out then they cant escape by jumping or running so they can and will get swarmed.
 

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L1250 post=18.73764.809002 said:
Noamuth post=18.73764.808992 said:
Plus, I can't get the image of sparkling vampires out of my head. Hard to take them seriously.
Would thinking of sparkling zombies help to at least think of them with the same (low) level of dignity?
Lol, sparkely corpses.