In spite of my current salt fetish, I like this analogy XDdeathbydeath said:here are my thoughts: homework is like salt. people like different amounts, but generally a little is best. too much ruins everything else
In spite of my current salt fetish, I like this analogy XDdeathbydeath said:here are my thoughts: homework is like salt. people like different amounts, but generally a little is best. too much ruins everything else
"WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THE THICKIES! THEY WONT THINK TO HELP THEMSELVES! JOHNNY WAS ONLY JUST POTTY-TRAINED AND STILL DOESNT UNDERSTAND THE PROPER APPLICATION OF PANTS! T__T"bloodmage2 said:well, i do oppose homework, as it is completely useless. allow me to explain:
some students, such as myself, can hear a concept once or twice and grasp it. i begrudingly do homework as i actually don't want piss poor grades. a friend of mine almost never does homework, yet aces his exams. in his words "teachers ask me "you do great on all your tests and quizzes, why don't you hand in your homework", i say, "isn't it obvious?"".
if you don't get it, homework is useless if you already understand something.
so, here's my idea: assign homework, but don't collect it, don't grade it, don't go over it. at the end of the unit/quarter/semester/year, it will show who did and who did not do their work. homework as it stand is just mindless busywork, blind repetition.
find flaws in that. i challenge you.
I don't know about that. By the time the teacher was done baby-sitting, the whole set-up in high school felt a little superfluous. In short, school seems a little long as is. Students can complain about the time they spend on homework, but I think their energy would be better spent complaining about the time wasted in school by "pants-on-head retarded" peers. Oh, and mindless book-based teaching.nonl33t m4st3r said:Homework is an opportunity to reinforce concepts, get some practice at your own pace, and to prevent longer school days. I'm all for it.
Eh, they're trying to make you "wrestle" with the material, but forcing a certain structure on that process strikes me as counterproductive.Squidden said:When I have 7 classes, 4 of them AP, I don't like having preset homework. I like to study the way I study, not outline 5 god damn chapters in each textbook for each AP class every day. I'd much rather just read the book and not have to do any writing.
As someone who works in the American education system and frequently deals with students that have a variety of problems I can tell you that teachers really do have to account for the lowest performing student in their classes. There is pressure on teachers to push all kids through on to the next grade. This is all tied to stuff like No Child Left Behind requirements which connects directly to the amount of money a school gets. If nothing else, padding the grades of dumb kids with homework assignments helps teachers keep their jobs and schools in the black.Koroviev said:"WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THE THICKIES! THEY WONT THINK TO HELP THEMSELVES! JOHNNY WAS ONLY JUST POTTY-TRAINED AND STILL DOESNT UNDERSTAND THE PROPER APPLICATION OF PANTS! T__T"bloodmage2 said:well, i do oppose homework, as it is completely useless. allow me to explain:
some students, such as myself, can hear a concept once or twice and grasp it. i begrudingly do homework as i actually don't want piss poor grades. a friend of mine almost never does homework, yet aces his exams. in his words "teachers ask me "you do great on all your tests and quizzes, why don't you hand in your homework", i say, "isn't it obvious?"".
if you don't get it, homework is useless if you already understand something.
so, here's my idea: assign homework, but don't collect it, don't grade it, don't go over it. at the end of the unit/quarter/semester/year, it will show who did and who did not do their work. homework as it stand is just mindless busywork, blind repetition.
find flaws in that. i challenge you.
^The cries of your opposition
College is a beautiful place.WorkerMurphey said:As someone who works in the American education system and frequently deals with students that have a variety of problems I can tell you that teachers really do have to account for the lowest performing student in their classes. There is pressure on teachers to push all kids through on to the next grade. This is all tied to stuff like No Child Left Behind requirements which connects directly to the amount of money a school gets. If nothing else, padding the grades of dumb kids with homework assignments helps teachers keep their jobs and schools in the black.Koroviev said:"WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THE THICKIES! THEY WONT THINK TO HELP THEMSELVES! JOHNNY WAS ONLY JUST POTTY-TRAINED AND STILL DOESNT UNDERSTAND THE PROPER APPLICATION OF PANTS! T__T"bloodmage2 said:well, i do oppose homework, as it is completely useless. allow me to explain:
some students, such as myself, can hear a concept once or twice and grasp it. i begrudingly do homework as i actually don't want piss poor grades. a friend of mine almost never does homework, yet aces his exams. in his words "teachers ask me "you do great on all your tests and quizzes, why don't you hand in your homework", i say, "isn't it obvious?"".
if you don't get it, homework is useless if you already understand something.
so, here's my idea: assign homework, but don't collect it, don't grade it, don't go over it. at the end of the unit/quarter/semester/year, it will show who did and who did not do their work. homework as it stand is just mindless busywork, blind repetition.
find flaws in that. i challenge you.
^The cries of your opposition
However, there are other issues with homework. Some students will apply themselves and be successful regardless of any assignments. This is the reason smart/motivated kids can get through classes where the teacher sucks.
Homework helps the lower tier of students who are too lazy or stupid to do the sort of independent studying or extra work that other students will naturally want to do anyway to succeed. Homework forces kids to do the work that ideally would happen anyway. For the brighter students in the world, tough shit, do your homework and as your educational career develops you might find yourself in a classroom where homework isn't a factor. For me that place was in college.
But what about the people who don't get it? I doubt that they would go and do the extra work necessary to get it if it wasn't required.brumley53 said:I think homework is a load of bullshit, but it really depends. Alot of the homework i get is just revision which is just annoying and usually doesnt do anything because I understand things much more easily then some people, but some things like essays and projects i think are necessary because theres not enough time in a class to finish it.