Poll: Those debates the internet will never let go...

[MajorTomServo]

There are some debates on the internet you can just never get away from. You will ALWAYS see people arguing over these things, usually in youtube comment strings. Which one is the worst offender?

PLEASE NOTE, WE'RE NOT HERE TO ACTUALLY ARGUE ABOUT THESE THINGS. JUST DISCUSS HOW ANNOYING IT IS THAT SOME PEOPLE NEVER STOP ACTING LIKE CHILDREN.

 

[shrekfan246]

The Star Wars prequels.

It's been fourteen years. Eight if you want to be charitable.

I wish people would let it go already.

 

[crudus]

Declawing cats, tipping, perpetual motion (Ironically, although that one is a little harder to find), and does the repeating decimal .9999 equal 1(much rarer but if one gets started it lasts for months).

I personally find the .999=1 debate most offensive because that was proven ages ago. You can prove it with literally every type of math. People still argue it. Although now that I am a server the tipping debate is getting pretty bad.

As far as the most prevalent one that won't go away is probably the Atheist/Creation debate. Although that one is easier to avoid and harder to get worked up about.

The ME3 ending is shaping up to be one of these enduring internet debates that never seem to end.

I only see this one crop up if the conversation brings it up and it never lasts more than a few minutes. In my experience anyway.

 

[Terminate421]

Atheism vs. Religion

I believe in a god, I stand by that. People will attack me and claim I am an asshole holding our species back. I tell them they are assholes for being hypocrites/morons/pointlessly stupid.

It's a vicious circle that never ends.

I should mention that of course not all Atheist people think this way, however I tend to see it a bit on this site and have a history of debating with these people, usually I don't want to.

 

[crudus]

I believe in a god, I stand by that. People will attack me and claim I am an asshole holding our species back.

I have never once heard that from people. Now there are many videos of creationists that I find very disturbing and it would borderline on me thinking that, but that is on the person not on their ideology. I have also seen atheist videos that fit that bill too; don't get me wrong.

 

[crudus]

PLEASE NOTE, WE'RE NOT HERE TO ACTUALLY ARGUE ABOUT THESE THINGS. JUST DISCUSS HOW ANNOYING IT IS THAT SOME PEOPLE NEVER STOP ACTING LIKE CHILDREN.

I am not trying to start one. I would just appreciate some elaboration on Terminate's point. It is something I have never really encountered. I have never seen this in person or know someone (in person) this has happened to. Every once in a while I will hear about it someone on the internet having it happen to them, but that is it. They always make it sound like it such a common occurrence. I don't know if instances are just isolated or if it just happens less often than people tend to imply.

Now I have been discriminated against because I am atheist, but it happens once every few years.

 

[Arakasi]

I enjoy most of these debates, so if you don't enjoy them, just don't go near them. Very simple.

Unfortunately I have recognised that it is nigh impossible to change minds in these debates, that's the most annoying thing about them, and the psychology of humans.

 

[Zantos]

PLEASE NOTE, WE'RE NOT HERE TO ACTUALLY ARGUE ABOUT THESE THINGS. JUST DISCUSS HOW ANNOYING IT IS THAT SOME PEOPLE NEVER STOP ACTING LIKE CHILDREN.

I am not trying to start one. I would just appreciate some elaboration on Terminate's point. It is something I have never really encountered. I have never seen this in person or know someone (in person) this has happened to. Every once in a while I will hear about it someone on the internet having it happen to them, but that is it. They always make it sound like it such a common occurrence. I don't know if instances are just isolated or if it just happens less often than people tend to imply.

Now I have been discriminated against because I am atheist, but it happens once every few years.

It is more common that you'd think. In my experience it's mostly atheists who have come from a fairly religious area, taken flak for being atheists from the people there, then moved to somewhere with a greater atheist presence like University and decide they're going to hit back at the people that bullied them. The problem being that the people that bully them are back in their home town, and they have to go for the nearest people that meet the description. I've taken a lot from people doing that for being a christian, which is really odd in itself because I wasn't and hadn't said I was in quite some time.

Luckily in that sort of intelligent atmosphere people are fairly chill and friendly, and everyone realises that maybe the people they knew beforehand were just massive dickheads. And then you all have fun and run around the park with super soakers, and it turns out the buddhists are suspiciously good at it.

Anyway, sorry MajorTomServo! On topic!

It's not the Atheists vs Religion as such, but the Atheists vs- and the Religion vs -. I don't mind theological debate where it's due, civil and non-obstructive. But if what the discussion is on has absolutely no theological weighting then trying to make your point seem more impressive with "As an atheist", "As a christian", "As a catholic", "As a jedi", "As an imperial cultist of mankind" is obnoxious, and probably a sign that the point you're making isn't as strong as you'd hoped. Although I suppose in many ways it's my own fault for not leaving comments sections the hell alone.

 

[Guffe]

Console wars
You had console vs PC but I think the one that's worse is the "Big Three War"
I don't like it... People bash on other consoles for no real reasons.
Competition is good for the market since it makes things go forward and if I like number 1 and you like number 3, let's just keep it that way, no need to start trying make me understand why you like 3 better.

Of course religion and politics are good goers too but that's been going on for millenias so it's a bit unfair...

 

[Guffe]

I enjoy most of these debates, so if you don't enjoy them, just don't go near them. Very simple.

Unfortunately I have recognised that it is nigh impossible to change minds in these debates, that's the most annoying thing about them, and the psychology of humans.

The thing is "changing peoples views" means you must have facts
I'm not sure what subject you're thining about but for example let's take consoles.

Let's say I have owned every Nintendo console since the SNES up to the WiiU and you've had every PS
You giving me a list of the hardware of these two consoles and how they utilize them for their benefits telling me the PS3 is a better machine than, let's say the Wii (back in those days). That is not going to make me buy a PS3, if I've always played Nintendo and own the consoles and like them, why would I change? Maybe a friend of mine owns a PS3 so if I want to play that I can just go over to him and play right?

If we're going into "more serious" debates like Politics and Religion which ´have been going on for thousands of years, these are usually based on a persons view of the world, country whatever, and just saying "there's no scientific evidence a GOD could excist" is "wrong", because religion isn't meant to be a material, true thing (maybe for some) it's supposed to be a mental pillar to which you can lean on when noting else helps. For some it works and for others not.

Then again things you can argue easily about is if I say the whale is a fish and you come up with all the biological evidence it's actually a mammal, that's easy because it is not connected my personal feelings in any way. Usually stuff with strong personal connection like religion or politics there isn't just ONE right. And that's why changing a persons views which they might've upholded for ceveral decades are very hard to change.

But I agree on your first point, If you can't handle a rational debate and go all bananas on your counterpart, don't go into them at all.

 

[Colour Scientist]

Abortion is a pretty enduring one.

People are usually pretty steadfast in their beliefs surrounding it and aren't usually willing to compromise.
I find those threads always descend into yelling.

 

[Arakasi]

I enjoy most of these debates, so if you don't enjoy them, just don't go near them. Very simple.

Unfortunately I have recognised that it is nigh impossible to change minds in these debates, that's the most annoying thing about them, and the psychology of humans.

The thing is "changing peoples views" means you must have facts
I'm not sure what subject you're thining about but for example let's take consoles.

I was thinking about debates I participate in in general. Console wars not being one of them.

If we're going into "more serious" debates like Politics and Religion which ´have been going on for thousands of years, these are usually based on a persons view of the world, country whatever, and just saying "there's no scientific evidence a GOD could excist" is "wrong", because religion isn't meant to be a material, true thing (maybe for some) it's supposed to be a mental pillar to which you can lean on when noting else helps. For some it works and for others not.

If you are making a claim that something exists, you have to back it up with evidence. Especially if you want people to act on it. And no, you can't talk about what religion is supposed to be, you can only talk about what it is. What it is currently can have the aspect you mentioned, but it is not necessary for religion.

Then again things you can argue easily about is if I say the whale is a fish and you come up with all the biological evidence it's actually a mammal, that's easy because it is not connected my personal feelings in any way. Usually stuff with strong personal connection like religion or politics there isn't just ONE right. And that's why changing a persons views which they might've upholded for ceveral decades are very hard to change.

When someone makes a factual statement, such as 'god exists' there is definitely right and wrong. Politics is a little different, because there are numerous goals and numerous ways of approaching it, but politics isn't trying to make any factual claims (as far as I can tell) aside from 'this is what I want, and why'.

But I agree on your first point, If you can't handle a rational debate and go all bananas on your counterpart, don't go into them at all.

Damn right.

 

[VoidWanderer]

You forgot "All of the above!"

 

[Baron_Rouge]

They're all pretty irritating. Consoles vs PC is particularly so in my opinion, because the issue is so insignificant. Just play whatever makes you happy, people! Gosh!

Also, in the MRAs vs feminists one, what are MRAs? Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with that term...

 

[Scarim Coral]

I choose other because I just fed up with the whole sexisum in video game related arguement (like the recent Dragon Crown game). Sure I get why people are upset about it and at times when it is justify (Scarlet Blade) but I don't see why should the creator or whoever made the said sexium had to apologise when he/ she/ the group had never intended to offend anyone in the first place.

They/ that person made it because he/ she wanted that game to be made the way they invision it which at times can be skimpy women etc (they had passion when creationing it which I appreciate that attitude toward making a game).

It pretty much what artists in any media having to put up with whenever some miniority get offended on the artist creation, overlooking the whole and focus on one little thing that offend them.

 

[FalloutJack]

You forgot "All of the above!"

Pretty much what I was going to say. This is the internet. The saturation point is fecking ridiculous for these.

 

[Legion]

Also, in the MRAs vs feminists one, what are MRAs? Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with that term...

Male Rights Activists.

It is not something I had heard of either before seeing it on these forums. From what I gather it is basically the same idea as feminism, but focusing on the aspects of society where men get the raw end of the deal, such as custody/visitation rights to their children after divorces and such.

 

[Akimoto]

Atheism vs Religion

The more these two groups argue/debate, the more entrenched both sides become in their beliefs. One sees the need for divine intervention to convince the other while the other does not believe in the divine and therefore will never be convinced.

 

[Galen Marek]

Atheism vs Religion

Most annoying to me. I do find it funny with people that are religious defend it so aggressively (to the point of abuse). If you've read the bible you can just see so much humor it.

Still annoying, I respect your right to believe in God, just respect mine not to believe/believe in that specific scenario.

ME3 I find annoying and Console Vs PC/Other consoles, thats just silly.

Oh well. If I see one starting I normally just point and laugh, then go watch another Youtube video.

Go Scarra, go Oddone.

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

Out of those, console vs PC. I still participate in all of the rest (except Bronies vs Anitbronies, which would probably be my choice if I saw it more often, but I see it very rarely). I'm one of those console players who admits that PC has access to better and more fluid technology, modding, and some genres console's can't really play, but would like other people to leave me alone about it and let me enjoy being able to buy a console and not have to worry that games I buy for it aren't going to run properly. Another thing I think should be noted is that the people debating feminists aren't generally MRAs, and are in most cases technically feminists who don't want to associate themselves with the conduct of feminists such as those they are disagreeing with. Much like there are atheists who do not call themselves atheists because they don't like debating religious people.