Poll: Time Travel or FTL Travel?
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As much as I absolutely LOVE space/astronomy, I would choose Time Travel in a heartbeat.
Only someone who actually knows what makes up most of the visible universe will realize how BORING and EMPTY it is.
Will you use FTL travel in an attempt to discover more life? You know, the odds of which are so astronomically low that you will have to thoroughly check a billion planets before you have the vaguest chance of finding anything?
Or will you use it to take photos/videos of what Hubble has been basically doing since it was made, except now you get close-ups! Or will you use it to orbit far-away planets/stars, or land on the surface of planets/moons? After your 50th trip to yet another world encased in dust, ice, gas or volcanoes, what will you do next?
Seriously, if people are expecting Star Trek that's the last thing that's going to happen. There's a 99.9% chance you'll see yourself get bored within a matter of weeks, find yourself floating in some distant galaxy and asking your friend "sooooooo, where to now?" and he'll most likely reply "Well we've seen just about everything from black holes to quasars, it takes millions/billions of years for anything interesting to HAPPEN. I'm bored as fuck."
Meanwhile with Time-Travel you would actually be able to find out IMMENSELY important things that people would literally kill themselves (and I mean literally) to find out. And not even with an intent to change the future, but just KNOWING things that nobody else knows (or no longer believes in) would be so satisfying! I want to see rewind back to when Jesus was allegedly alive, I want to see who shot JFK, I want to see where mankind will be in 500 years! That would be a thousand more times more interesting than teleporting around the universe observing shit -_-
Yes, it's dangerous. But you have to establish exactly what kind of Time Travel we're working with here. Are we working with a single timeline, where if you change something in the past then the future of that timeline will be altered?
Or are we working with multiple timelines, where everytime you time-travel you simply enter another parallel universe and no matter what you do you can't change what happens to your OWN universe, you only end up changing the future of an alternate universe?
In any case, I would make sure to take someone extremely intelligent (when it comes to staying secret) taking me along on the journey. Because I know there's a fairly high chance that I'll end up screwing-up something with my very presence, even if I just want to observe stuff.
Only someone who actually knows what makes up most of the visible universe will realize how BORING and EMPTY it is.
Will you use FTL travel in an attempt to discover more life? You know, the odds of which are so astronomically low that you will have to thoroughly check a billion planets before you have the vaguest chance of finding anything?
Or will you use it to take photos/videos of what Hubble has been basically doing since it was made, except now you get close-ups! Or will you use it to orbit far-away planets/stars, or land on the surface of planets/moons? After your 50th trip to yet another world encased in dust, ice, gas or volcanoes, what will you do next?
Seriously, if people are expecting Star Trek that's the last thing that's going to happen. There's a 99.9% chance you'll see yourself get bored within a matter of weeks, find yourself floating in some distant galaxy and asking your friend "sooooooo, where to now?" and he'll most likely reply "Well we've seen just about everything from black holes to quasars, it takes millions/billions of years for anything interesting to HAPPEN. I'm bored as fuck."
Meanwhile with Time-Travel you would actually be able to find out IMMENSELY important things that people would literally kill themselves (and I mean literally) to find out. And not even with an intent to change the future, but just KNOWING things that nobody else knows (or no longer believes in) would be so satisfying! I want to see rewind back to when Jesus was allegedly alive, I want to see who shot JFK, I want to see where mankind will be in 500 years! That would be a thousand more times more interesting than teleporting around the universe observing shit -_-
Yes, it's dangerous. But you have to establish exactly what kind of Time Travel we're working with here. Are we working with a single timeline, where if you change something in the past then the future of that timeline will be altered?
Or are we working with multiple timelines, where everytime you time-travel you simply enter another parallel universe and no matter what you do you can't change what happens to your OWN universe, you only end up changing the future of an alternate universe?
In any case, I would make sure to take someone extremely intelligent (when it comes to staying secret) taking me along on the journey. Because I know there's a fairly high chance that I'll end up screwing-up something with my very presence, even if I just want to observe stuff.
What the time travel machine is a T.A.R.D.I.S which can go any where in the universe at any time?OlasDAlmighty said:
Wrong, the 4th dimension follows the trend of the 1st-3rd being points of reference... only that the 4th involves a 3-dimensional object in motion, and measures that in the intervals of 'time' (I.E, object was *here* then, and is *here* now). Past that, it's all a bunch of hokey conjecture and "what if's".Mimsofthedawg said:
Simple answer. Time Travel+Cryo Stasis= You can freaking go anywhere in space and time. You freeze yourself, travel back in time a very long ways, then use regular propulsion to get to wherever you want to be. You just have to go back exactly as much as it would take to reach where and whenever you want to go.
I'm up for warping across the universe now. Besides, no chance of screwing up the present more than it already is that way.
[sub][sub]Still want the car even if it doesn't time travel. :S[/sub][/sub]
That's perfectly fine in theory...in practice, travelling at sub-light speed, you'd be frozen for many, many millenia. Dunno if I want to trust my life to a machine that has to work properly for that long.Donnie Restad said:
Methinks there's way too much danger in using time travel. You'll end up screwing something over no matter what.
I'd go with FTL, but not to cruise around the galaxy in the hopes that we'll pick up some alien bitchez or colonise idealistic Edens or anything, I reckon more for resources. Boring, yeah, but there's probably a hell of a lot more benefical potential in doing some kind of deep space mining/asteroid smashing operation for minerals and stuff than looking for things we'll never find or creating things that'll never function well.
FTL and practicality FTW.
I'd go with FTL, but not to cruise around the galaxy in the hopes that we'll pick up some alien bitchez or colonise idealistic Edens or anything, I reckon more for resources. Boring, yeah, but there's probably a hell of a lot more benefical potential in doing some kind of deep space mining/asteroid smashing operation for minerals and stuff than looking for things we'll never find or creating things that'll never function well.
FTL and practicality FTW.
Time Travel, as long as I create new universes based on my actions in the past as some time travel theories go thus not able to negate my own existence.
Well, out of the two, I'd rather have time travel and go back to set up my family with stock in the best companies and also to give my younger self some pointers so I'd at least be better off than I am now. At least this way I won't go messing up anything too important.
Of the 2, I'd choose FTL travel.
But, let's assume time travel was possible and you travel in the past and do something...
But, let's assume time travel was possible and you travel in the past and do something...
- a) You change the past, altering the timeline, creating a universe destroying paradox...
- "And as an environmentalist, I'm against that.".
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b) You did what you did because you were supposed to have done it, even if you hadn't meant to have done it.
- "a lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-my-own-grandpa".
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c) Nothing happens, because time travel ultimately doesn't exist. You didn't travel to the past, you traveled to an alternate past where your actions have no consequence on your present.
- "Four people just found a gateway to another dimension, but they forgot one problem... how to get back!"
