Poll: United States Presidential Election
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Just a quick question: I've heard from someone (can't remember who) who said that, on average, the world is more leftist than America, to the point that Republicans are considered extreme right and Democrats are somewhat centrist, but a little left leaning.
What I wanna know is if this is true. Britain and Europe I believe so. But the rest?
If I'd vote, it'd be Obama. But I'm not a citizen, just some guy who goes to school here. It'd be great to find someone to vote for me if they're not doing so themselves, but I don't want to impose either.
And, as opposed to popular opinions, a lot of Americans are not cheeseburger-inhaling Yanks. But then again, this is a university, so I'd expect it to be pretty different than other places.
Also, yes. Medium is the smallest here.
What I wanna know is if this is true. Britain and Europe I believe so. But the rest?
If I'd vote, it'd be Obama. But I'm not a citizen, just some guy who goes to school here. It'd be great to find someone to vote for me if they're not doing so themselves, but I don't want to impose either.
And, as opposed to popular opinions, a lot of Americans are not cheeseburger-inhaling Yanks. But then again, this is a university, so I'd expect it to be pretty different than other places.
Also, yes. Medium is the smallest here.
The people who qualify as our best are too smart to get involved in politics.jdog345 post=18.71728.744189 said:
Well there is Mc cain a guy who was shot down 5 times vietnam, once you could understand but 5 times! did he not grasp the cocncept that anti-aircraft guns=bad for him? just the guy you need in power of the U.S Military.
Palin, mmh lets see she dosnt think global warming is caused by man even though Bush himself admits this, she is govenor of a state america always seems to forget about and to top it all of she is smeared with scandal.
Obama all the way, he may be immature, he will make wrong descisions for the first while but id rather have some mistakes other than have constant mistakes being made.
And isnt McCain not realll,really old?
Palin, mmh lets see she dosnt think global warming is caused by man even though Bush himself admits this, she is govenor of a state america always seems to forget about and to top it all of she is smeared with scandal.
Obama all the way, he may be immature, he will make wrong descisions for the first while but id rather have some mistakes other than have constant mistakes being made.
And isnt McCain not realll,really old?
Dude, you need to add a bit more than that. First, the spring 2000 purge was initiated as a direct result of the Democrats getting caught rigging the election for mayor of Miami. (Dead people are a solid Democrat constituency the whole country wide.)Limos post=18.71728.740453 said:
Second, the Democrats sent literally hundreds of lawyers to Florida to contest the votes of military personnel. Florida had a law in place that disallowed absentee ballots that were not stamped by a post office. Military personnel on duty get free mail service - there is no cancellation. The federal government had previously sued Florida for this law - they had some weird idea that men and women risking their lives for their country should not be denied the right to vote - and Florida agreed to accept military absentee ballots without postal cancellation. Gore's lawyers were dispatched specifically to contest military votes, not known as a big Democrat voting block. (I happened to be in Manatee County the day of the election to meet with Bradenton city officials, and the cell phone calls were flying as the county tried to figure out what to do about these lawyers threatening lawsuits.)
Third, Voter News Service (a creation of the major media) called the election for Gore before the polls closed in the heavily Republican panhandle, causing thousands of people standing in line to leave without voting. Voter News Service projected Gore a big winner in Florida even though Bush was currently leading by 4%, causing most Floridians to believe the election was over before the polls even closed in the Central Time Zone.
Fourth, it was not "nearly impossible" to punch through the ballot, most people accomplished it up until closing. The Republicans filed an injunction for relief because of the partisan nature of the recount in the two Democrat, one Republican committees. Commission Chair (Democrat): "I see a dimple for Gore." Republican representative: "What! You're crazy, there's no dimple!" Democrat Representative: "Yeah, I see a dimple as well." Remember that all nine US Supreme court justices agreed with them that recounting three Democrat-ran counties was not acceptable, seven SCOTUS justices agreed that the Florida Supreme Court could not change the laws a second time, and five SCOTUS justices agreed that Florida had to post its official count by the federally required deadline OR throw its electoral vote to the Florida House, which was majority Republican. The Republicans were in favor of a state-wide recount, which ironically might have given Gore the win depending on which criteria were used. The Democrats were pushing for recounting ONLY three counties under Democrat control, which when investigated after the election by a conglomerate of media would not have given Gore the win under any criteria except outright theft.
Fifth, the voting machines in those three counties were selected and purchased, and the ballots designed, by Democrats. Even assuming that enough Democrats screwed up the ballots to cost Gore the election, do you really want a president elected by people to stupid to successfully vote even when their own party selects the equipment and designs the ballot?
The Florida Supreme Court changed the rules and extended the deadline to give the Democrats every chance to pull out a win; the Democrats could not come up with a way to pull it off without a second rule change and deadline extension, which ran into the federal deadline. Thus SCOTUS ended the recounts. Gore might well have won have all votes been cast as the voter intended; saying the Republicans stole the election is enough spin to lift you off the ground.
Mccain has already won, think about it the USA already elected G.W.Bush twice.
The USA loves to elect a bad president, that way they can blame him and not themselves for all the problems they have.
The USA loves to elect a bad president, that way they can blame him and not themselves for all the problems they have.
Um, bullshit. A society with no government would be anarchy, not perfect Marxism. Since resources are inherently limited and at some level indivisible, in Marxism government will always be necessary to decide which people are more equal than others. In a capitalist society that is determined by the free market - a good artist can make a living, even a fortune, from his work. In a Marxist society, an artist (where enough excess production exists to support one) is evaluated by the government, because the government needs must redistribute the wealth or else not be Marxism. As any society becomes more Marxist, it becomes less free and accumulates more, and more powerful, government.Labyrinth post=18.71728.742705 said:
If Obama, America's most liberal senator by both sides' scoring, is too right-wing for you, is there any politician who suits you? Remember, even Red China has embraced capitalism, if not democracy; only Cuba and North Korea remain solidly Marxist. Do you think other people should be obligated to produce wealth which you then consume? If so, why would they not have the same expectations of you? Why should anyone do any work that's not fun?
I think you are at war not with capitalism and democracy, but with reality.
Anarchic society relies on the 'every person for themselves' principle, rather than a distinct lack of government. Additionally, as one of the standing pillars of Marxism is equality that is, everyone, rather than segregated by any form of class or distinction, your second point is hardly valid argument. Again, due to the idea of equality, having a government that raises some as public servants above the rest due to authority goes against Marxism.werepossum post=18.71728.746167 said:
No, there aren't any politicians in America who suit me. Deal with it.
Your apparent misconception that Marxism can have no relation to democracy is staggering. When everyone is equal, decisions would be made by consultation of everyone who wanted to be included, creating a much broader version of democracy than is currently available anywhere. Additionally, in such a society, wealth would be accumulated by everyone who was able to work. Think pensions, for the rest. And I'd also suggest you actually read the communist manifesto before offering commentary on Marxism, otherwise you'd have your facts straight.
I'm quite fond of democracy, I just don't see much of it, unfortunately.
which ever way it's in the bag, why even have elections at all ?Ultrajoe post=18.71728.746174 said:
Well Canada is. The "Right Wing" here is the Conservative party which is centre-right while the Liberals are somewhat left the NDP are very left and the Green is far far left on enviroment closer to NDP on the rest.GCM post=18.71728.744191 said:
Yea, those are the two things that werent supposed to mix in our government, either. SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. Its In there. Its written in a clear way that it is not twistable to the ends it has been twisted by the Religious wrong.aRealGuitarHero707 post=18.71728.736127 said:
I cant tell you how it makes one more qualified, but I CAN tell you what makes you LESS qualified.
First: Supporting pet projects designed to exploit and steal money from taxpayers. IE, Bridge To Nowhere. Sure once you used it to get elected into office, you oppose it, but only after EVERYONE ELSE HAS SHUT IT DOWN.
Second: Keeping fundings for said project for yourself afterwards.
Third: "The Internet is a Series of Tubes" - guess who was involved in that.
First: Supporting pet projects designed to exploit and steal money from taxpayers. IE, Bridge To Nowhere. Sure once you used it to get elected into office, you oppose it, but only after EVERYONE ELSE HAS SHUT IT DOWN.
Second: Keeping fundings for said project for yourself afterwards.
Third: "The Internet is a Series of Tubes" - guess who was involved in that.
Yeah, that's the sad truth. The problem is that the brightest and the best don't care for public office; especially when they become billionaires and can put the president in their pocket for a couple million in campaign contributions, then they can have their pie and eat it too.Beowulf DW post=18.71728.744375 said:
