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Tipsy Giant

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Res Plus said:
Tipsy Giant said:
OK, well let me clarify what I meant.

As tuition fees increase and qualifying grades go down, the people who can afford to go is smaller, therefor ensuring places for those who can afford uni, rather than places for our best and brightest regardless of financial position, this is the only way to capture our nations genius' and by not doing so, hundreds of talented and motivated people are not getting the opportunity to advance themselves and the country.

We all miss out when our best are sidelined due to Greed
Well part of the tution fee settlement was that access for genuinely very, very poorest was increased. There have never, ever been more scholarships or bursaries for "geniuses".

In fact what has happened is that all the people who wandered through school and then went off to do "media studies" and and get drunk for 3 years, and crucially started to believe it was a right not a privilege, will now have to really consider whether they want to go rather than being put up at tax payers' expense. No "genuises" are being excluded, that is pure hyperbole, "talented and motivated people" don't have to go to university to "advance themselves and the country".

And then we come back to inevitable left wing sloganeering, changing "the rich" for "Greed" is to merely subsitute one nebulous catch phrase for another. You do realise the average tax payer isn't a billionaire right? A couple of pennies on income tax to pay for 80,000 people to go to university for 3 years is a hundred quid or so out of every UK tax payers' pocket. You do realise the State (and by State I mean the taxpayer) has already covered free education from 7 to 18 right? At what point does the indivdual's demand from the tax payer become the "Greed" you so depise?

I'm not trying to sloganeer? i'm trying to point out the cost of a society that accepts people being ultra rich.

You are saying that paying for people to go to university costs tax payers a hundred quid each, but that's you assuming that these costs should be shared equally. What about closing loop holes which allow corporations to pay ZERO tax in the UK and then using this money, or increase the tax rate of anyone who's total income is over 500,000 per annum.

But this won't happen for as long as our government is made up of people who enjoy the top 1% lifestyle
 

Palademon

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Trivun said:
Palademon said:
I'm going to uni this year...on a games course

Reasons: because I can't make games otherwise.
Actually, the games industry doesn't want people with game design degrees. I've heard from designers themselves that the industry is screaming out for Maths graduates and IT graduates (there are several game developers based in the north of England, near my university, for the record, including one of the key bases of Rockstar). You'd be better off on one of those courses, especially since they also give you a good backing if you don't manage to make it in the industry. All a game design course will tach you is how to use things like 3DS Max and such, and give you a few contacts in the industry, all of which can be self taught and self attained anyway with a bit of work.

Just saying.
I am aware.
Although nowhere actually seems to offer a course for design specifically. All they do is programming and/or modelling. And even according to the people running the course I'm making the worst choice possible by trying to do both instead of specialising. They also do say that if you can't make it into the industry the course will still be helpful for multimedia IT work.
I'm not interested in Maths or IT courses. Maths used to be my best subject until college, and IT by itself is just boring.
I slightly agree with the self taught thing. One of the more bullshit courses I looked at told me how they teach important "fundamentals" that are essential, with no explanation of what that was, and that being their defense for bothering with the course after saying lots of things can be self taught.
I'm not good at teaching myself. I'm only good at being taught. That way I have structure. I know when to stop.
My problem with self structuring with no proper sense of goal is the reason why I'm awful at revision.
 

science girl

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I am going into my fourth and final year of BSc Chemistry with Forensics. Stressful but interesting. Hoping for a masters after it then a job hopefully. :)
 
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Going this September to study Computer Animation and Special Effects at Leeds Met. Mainly going to learn about computer animation and living at university. The grade requirements are really quite low so I don't have to worry too much this year and I still end up with a qualification and 3 years of uni life so I get pretty much exactly what I want.