Poll: Victimless crime.

[hamster mk 4]

Loitering would have a victem if the Loiterers were scairing off buisness. J-walking is pretty victemless as is speeding and drunk driving for the most part. They are just crimes because they increase the chance of other crimes occuring like vehicular manslaughter.

 

[Riobux]

Drug abuse, loitering and incest (I think incest is illegal).

 

[Dexiro]

J-walking always seemed silly to me, we don't have it in England thankfully. I'd be a little paranoid about where the law is in place exactly :/

Isn't gay sex still illegal in some places? I'd imagine there's a lot of taboo laws like that.

 

[Sutter Cane]

not wearing a seatbelt. I seriously don't understand these seatbelt laws. No one but the person not wearing the seatbelt could be harmed.

 

[Dahni]

Underage drinking.
I am an underage drinker. I will admit that right now with no shame. I happily break the law every other weekend. Who is the victim in that? Nobody except myself. But then, I'm choosing to drink. The risks that drinking entails, I am bringing them upon myself. Yet, I could get a criminal record or a fine or both for risking damage to my own body and my body ALONE. With that kind of attitude they may as well outlaw self-harm, extreme sports, etc. You could say that there is potential victims of underage drinking, such as people around the underager... however... if I was to drink, get violent and hit someone, that'd be assault. It may or may not have been caused by the drink. If I was 18, I'd probably have done it anyway if I was that kind of drunk. So there's no victim to underage drinking.

Underage smoking too.
People in the general area of the underage smoker could be passively smoking, but they would be anyway if the smoker was 8, 18 or 80. The age of the smoker doesn't change any effects their smoking has on people around them. So there is no victim to underage smoking.

Drugs do not directly have any victims. Obviously there's the gangs and murder associated with the sale of drugs, but the actual act of consuming that drug has no victim.

Sex. CONSENSUAL underage sex has no victim. If two underagers know what they're doing and they're aware of the risks and the measures they need to take to reduce them, leave them be.

Loitering. OH GOD FORBID WE STAND SOMEWHERE. I've noticed that it's mostly teenagers that get into shit for this because people (generally the elderly) like to assume that anything aged 16 is out to mug them, rob their house or stamp on their garden.

I could probably list more...

 

[brodie21]

talking about real crimes, not including underage drinking and the like. there are no victimless crimes.

by the way, i dont like how we have rules about what we can do and how we can do it. i mean, underage drinking is only there because of some dumbasses several years ago who fucked shit up for the rest of us

 

[Dahni]

talking about real crimes, not including underage drinking and the like. there are no victimless crimes.

by the way, i dont like how we have rules about what we can do and how we can do it. i mean, underage drinking is only there because of some dumbasses several years ago who fucked shit up for the rest of us

Underage drinking is a crime. Selling alcohol to underagers is a crime.

 

[Jumping_Over_Fences]

Shoplifting is a victimless crime, like punching someone in the dark.

 

[snowman6251]

Jaywalking. Victimless crime.

 

[LostTimeLady]

Victimless crime... hmmm. Well, I would usually take a crime to mean a breaking of a law of some sort, so here goes:
It is treason to put a stamp of British Monarchy upside down.
You haven't victimised anyone, merely put a stamp the wrong way round. You can't say you've victimsed the Queen because that would require defacing the stamp (whole different law being done for 'treason' for defacing an image of the Monarchy).

Ok, ok, that is a daft, out-dated and not inforced law of Britian BUT I'd say it is a victimless crime because although it is breaking the law there's no victim.

 

[poet_lawreate]

not wearing a seatbelt. I seriously don't understand these seatbelt laws. No one but the person not wearing the seatbelt could be harmed.

No, you're wrong. I was brought up traumatised by 'Danny's mother knew her killer. After killing his mother, Danny sat back down in his seat. He wasn't wearing a seatbelt' as a kid. It's crap like crushing passengers in front, shattering the windscreen so other people are injured etc. etc. If you're not wearing a seatbelt and there's someone in the car with you, you're at risk of injuring them as well as yourself.

 

[siddif]

My stance is if its a crime there must be a victim of some degree, why else would it be a crime?

 

[blalien]

(mine being: the police are fucking useless bullies in uniforms who only leave their desks to beat up drunks)

People who say that always go crying to the police at the first sign of trouble.

 

[Divine Miss Bee]

well, most drug-imbibing cases are "victimless," mostly because you are your own victim and you have your own consent (i hope). i don't see the harm in legalizing drugs, or at least looking the other way.

 

[spartan231490]

of course there are victimless crimes. and side note on the police, I believe that 9-11 is really nothing more than government sponsored dial-a-prayer. As of the early 2000's, the average response time for police during a 9-11 call in either new york state, or the entire US, was 7 minutes and 38 seconds. So basically, if you need cops to save ur life, in most situations, ur dead.

 

[C95J]

I guess. He makes a pretty good point with underage drinking.

Isn't the person who is doing the drinking the victim (I don't know if that really counts but I think it does).

As for loitering it would be the people or businesses around the person that is loitering...

but honestly I don't have a clue. If there wasn't a victim or someone at risk then it wouldn't be a crime wouldn't it? It has to be crime for a reason.

 

[Jamash]

Eating mince pies on Christmas Day is a victimless crime.

Oliver Cromwell may have seen God-fearing Protestants as victims of such a dastardly act of Popery when he made that law, but nowadays I think the hysteria about Catholicism has receded a little and even though the law hasn't been repealed, eating Mince Pies on Christmas day is most certainly a victimless crime, be you Protestant, Catholic or 'other'.

 

[Floppertje]

speeding, on an empty road. you don't hurt anyone with that and NO, pollution doesn't count because you do that anyway when you drive your car more slowly.