Poll: Video Games = Art

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Aqualung

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ART

1. the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance.

2. any field using the skills or techniques of art

3. skilled workmanship, execution, or agency, as distinguished from nature.

Sounds like it to me.
 

Frank_Sinatra_

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Yes they are but you should also have an option "Depends" because some games do not fill the shoes of art.
The Path is art, while Halo 3 in my eyes is not.
 

Triple G

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Dude. JRPGs are no art. Seriously. Every JRPG is built the same way: Pseudo-Epic plot encluding the theft of some ***** or some "cool"(the "" because Hero's of JRPGs aren't cool. The are stupid selfsatisfied smug successors and people who like them are the same) dude (à la Vincent from FF VII) saving the world or something. Also I hate it that all men in JRPGs look like women and the plot never really makes sense.
 

Triple G

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Nono, I don't say ALL JRPGs are crap. There might be some good ones but they all are buried under crappy broken monkeyfests like Devil May Cry. The "every JRPG is built the same way"-wntence was a little bit ovbver-reacted. There are really few games, that are really good. For example, not every western RPG has to be good. I played Sacred for like 5h and was so bored that I never touched it again, but if it comes to the Gothic-series(not part III though) I can play them for months and play all different complete conversion mods until my fingers bleed from pressing buttons on my keyboard.
 

Therumancer

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Well I guess it comes down to the eternal question of "what is art". Given that there are people with art grants who do crud with their bodily fluids for a living, it becomes a touchy subject. I mean some guy who takes a whizz in a bucket with a picture of the American flag painted on the bottom and then tosses a Cruicifix in it can be called a performance artist (as opposed to simply an obscene attention mongering jackoff), where do we draw the standards.

Truthfully though, despite my opinion that a lot of things that are considered artwork should NOT be considered art, I think video games are quite obviously art.

Think of it this way, producing pictures and composing music are both art. So is writing stories. Any medium that combines those things skillfully can also be considered an art form, without strecthing the definition as far as a lot of things acknowledged to be artistic like performance art do.

Now, honestly there is also a conflict even among artists about "real" art and "pop" art. The idea being that someone like Boris Vallejho or Frank Frazetta are/were artists, but their subject matter (fantasy) lacked the weight of true art. The idea basically being that if your work is obvious to a common observer and can be understood by just anyone it's simply "pop art".

That said to many video games might be "pop art" but they are still an art made up of the combination of a lot of seperate art forms nowadays. Writers, Graphic Artists, and Musicians all have to collaberate nowadays to create a single game.

Even if you don't like the idea of video games being art, how can you complain when guys can do stuff like throw a bunch of random garbage around a yard in piles, snap a picture of it, and then display it in a gallery show and be taken seriously?

"oh yeah doood, it's the chaos of the thing you see. That's what I'm trying to say with this picture".

I guess artwork is subjective, and while I understand a little about so called "real art", I'm pretty low brow because I'd much rather take a look at a half naked Amazon babe with a sword than half a dozen colored lines some dude marked on a piece of paper to demonstrate the contrast of color. :p


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hebdomad

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The day games are considered an art, is the day games are accepted by everyone.
And I doubt thats going to happen untill we are all dead, or very old.

I hope when games are officaly recingised as art, We don't get bombarded by stuipedly polictily correct games funned by the goverment...
 

Hyperactiveman

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Yes exactly... But depending on what game you're thinking about. Games like Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty and Gears of War then yes definately but in things like Guitar Hero, Condemned and arcade games then thats maybe no, not much anyway.
 

Taerdin

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Games as art?!?! You're CRAZY! [http://tale-of-tales.com/ThePath/index.html]

I think games can be art to be honest. If you think the creators of Shadow of the Colossus and Ico really only had profit and functionality in mind when they made them then... I dont know what to say to you. If they really just wanted the money they wouldve made something you know... more conventional and safe.

Plus you can't forget indie games [http://tale-of-tales.com/TheGraveyard/index.html]