Poll: Voting for the Escapist WarChief (take two)

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Eggsnham

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TheNumber1Zero said:
Eggsnham said:
TheNumber1Zero said:
Eggsnham said:
We should ask a mod to sticky it and rename it "What Not to do During an Election."
Seems elections in general don't end quite all that well.

Perhaps renaming it "Why Escapist Elections are bad"?
That would also work.
Alright then, go and PM whichever Mod is online at the moment and see what gets done.

Preferably [user]Kuliani[/user] if he's online at the moment, seeing as this was a Community thing (Gone horribly wrong).
Alright, will do. And here's hoping that this mess never happens again.
 

TheNumber1Zero

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Maxieon said:
He'd probably also be the one who would not get the most pissed off, if you ask me. He can be very lenient at times and understanding as well.
Yeah, you have a point.
Eggsnham said:
Wait until kuliani is online before doing anything.
 

Roxas1359

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TheNumber1Zero said:
Maxieon said:
He'd probably also be the one who would not get the most pissed off, if you ask me. He can be very lenient at times and understanding as well.
Yeah, you have a point.
Eggsnham said:
Wait until kuliani is online before doing anything.
Oh and Demented Teddy made a user group for it so you can all try and come up with something in there, or possibly try it again in there. But I don't know if you should try it again.
 

Eggsnham

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TheNumber1Zero said:
Maxieon said:
He'd probably also be the one who would not get the most pissed off, if you ask me. He can be very lenient at times and understanding as well.
Yeah, you have a point.
Eggsnham said:
Wait until kuliani is online before doing anything.
Yeah, I just noticed his offline-ness, I'll probably be sleeping in the meantime, unless someone here knows that he'll be getting on soon.
 

TheNumber1Zero

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Maxieon said:
Oh and Demented Teddy made a user group for it so you can all try and come up with something in there, or possibly try it again in there. But I don't know if you should try it again.
I know about Teddy's Group.

While I wish her and her comrades all the luck on the internet, I'm staying out of it.

And this should Never Be Tried Again.

All it does is pit things against each-other.
This was nothing more than a giant Vs. Thread waiting to happen, and it did.

Sadly, it may very well be tried again.

Possibly even by the Op himself (Who someone should really inform of this turn of events).
 

Roxas1359

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TheNumber1Zero said:
Maxieon said:
Oh and Demented Teddy made a user group for it so you can all try and come up with something in there, or possibly try it again in there. But I don't know if you should try it again.
I know about Teddy's Group.

While I wish her and her comrades all the luck on the internet, I'm staying out of it.

And this should Never Be Tried Again.

All it does is pit things against each-other.
This was nothing more than a giant Vs. Thread waiting to happen, and it did.

Sadly, it may very well be tried again.

Possibly even by the Op himself (Who someone should really inform of this turn of events).
I'll PM him what happened, and I'll also see if I can try and get rid of some of the stuff so that some of you won't get in as much trouble.
 

Sleekgiant

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I'm so glad the constant News announcements and PM spam made me hate this, well hope everyone learned not to try this ever again.
 

TimeLord

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Forgive my denseness but 4 hours ago we were at each others throats...

I finally went to sleep for 4 hours *yay*

What has happened and is the madness over?
 

Claymorez

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Back: Re-read what I missed and I agree this is the end of this election. I am appalled at how caught up we all got in this - but then again it was very enjoyable and I don't think we went too overboard on the slander it was present but not explicitly insulting so I don't really think it counted as a flame-war. But ya in the mean time I want to thank all those on my side for their hard work. :p
 

Timotei

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Are you going to be doing this again some time?

I have a strong interest in participating, but only at the beginning when the stage is more level.
 

Claymorez

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Timotei said:
Are you going to be doing this again some time?

I have a strong interest in participating, but only at the beginning when the stage is more level.
The problem is there is no level stage if you want to win - the only way this could work is if we all agree to do it non seriously and for it just being the novelty of winning - i.e. silly manifestos and not doing it seriously. Otherwise you just get escalation. We barely avoided a flame war here.

Edit: or we can carry on with the rules being No PMing people for support and simply posting the manifesto of your party and leaving people to choose for themselves.
 

oppp7

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I can't tell if this is serious or a parody of the mudslinging BS in politics.
 

Claymorez

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Furburt said:
Good evening all. I have been absent at a party for the last day or so, I'd be very glad if you could tell me what exactly happened here. There seems to be....something wrong.

Basically you were in the lead with 30 votes. Eggsnham was MIA so I formed my own party to battle yours. Then Eggsnham came back and joined my party. Prior to that time I asked friends to vote for us/myparty and this got me 20 votes or so. At that point you were on 34. Demented Teddy as your right hand man realised I was gaining fast and so began his own canvassing of friends to get extra votes for you. Then the originally passive and fun speeches turned against other party's when Demented Teddy began to fight back with his own posts in response to my high activity in the thread, this then evolved as the followings behind the two sides grew with more committed members arguing over party policies. Our party rather unfairly took advantage of your absence and thus were able to argue that you had shown no proof of you commitment to your promises and we were able to put forward our plans and ideas for dealing with certain issues in the community (read the thread to see them). Demented teddy was left with little choice but to stall for your return and thus made posts that in some lights could be considered trolling (as he refused to address the issues or our demands for examples/explanations of your party's plans on how they would deal with the problems) - and instead made posts which paraphrased your post about your promises i.e. Uniting the community is our goal, whilst failing to explain how. Whilst I had sent virtual cookies to anyone who asked for them or voted for us as evidence of my commitment to following my promises and evidence of my seriousness. My supporters even made a video! My supporters and myself then called Teddy and your supporters out on this as we had explained our ideas and your party hadn't. Then your supports latched on to my giving away cookies for fun arguing my party wasn't taking the election seriously.. Then at around 0.32am I negotiated an alliance with the paladins party to join with mine giving us a higher poll score and putting us on your heels. Then I went to bed and at about 4:30am one of my members suggested we tune the whole propaganda and canvassing down aswell as the political arguing as we risked becoming a flame war (I have read the posts and honest believe we never reached that point thou it might have headed that way).
 

DigitalSushi

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TheNumber1Zero said:
Maxieon said:
Oh and Demented Teddy made a user group for it so you can all try and come up with something in there, or possibly try it again in there. But I don't know if you should try it again.
I know about Teddy's Group.

While I wish her and her comrades all the luck on the internet, I'm staying out of it.

And this should Never Be Tried Again.

All it does is pit things against each-other.
This was nothing more than a giant Vs. Thread waiting to happen, and it did.

Sadly, it may very well be tried again.

Possibly even by the Op himself (Who someone should really inform of this turn of events).
Yes please, I'd like to be informed of what the fucking hell happened, 2 years ago the Escapist Elections created a huge rift in the community to the point that bannings happened as a direct result of the fallout, its why the New Guards and the Old guards don't integrate very well. I wanted to step away from that, unfortunatly some rage happened.

I fully expect you boys and girls to be ashamed of yourselves and apologise if some heavy shit actually went down.

Timotei said:
Are you going to be doing this again some time?

I have a strong interest in participating, but only at the beginning when the stage is more level.
I'd like to do it again, it has been fun, unfortunatly I was the creator, editor and leader of a party which spread my abilities quite thinly, I knew I wouldn't win but that was my goal to create this little playground where in future I could oversee and commentate on what happened.

Its funny that there have been some "self moderating" happening, but hopefully in future we can stop that happening, after all the main goals of the parties are full integration of the community.

I made the rules as lenient as possible to allow people to have fun, we had some mergers of parties because of it, which would not have happened on a stricter schedule.

So going foward, yes I would like to do it again, people be nice to each other.
 

DigitalSushi

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I was planning on doing a question time today with the major party members but it looks like I have to check this thread out to see what the hell happened.
 

Claymorez

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ColdStorage said:
I was planning on doing a question time today with the major party members but it looks like I have to check this thread out to see what the hell happened.
Ill just show you this I explained it to Furburt. I think we can still carry on with the thread but no more PMing for votes and people put up their explained manifestos and the leaders can talk in user groups about what they want to say. No one attacks other group's policies and we just answer at the question time how we would deal with certain issues and leave it up to the voters.


Basically you were in the lead with 30 votes. Eggsnham was MIA so I formed my own party to battle yours. Then Eggsnham came back and joined my party. Prior to that time I asked friends to vote for us/myparty and this got me 20 votes or so. At that point you were on 34. Demented Teddy as your right hand man realised I was gaining fast and so began his own canvassing of friends to get extra votes for you. Then the originally passive and fun speeches turned against other party's when Demented Teddy began to fight back with his own posts in response to my high activity in the thread, this then evolved as the followings behind the two sides grew with more committed members arguing over party policies. Our party rather unfairly took advantage of your absence and thus were able to argue that you had shown no proof of you commitment to your promises and we were able to put forward our plans and ideas for dealing with certain issues in the community (read the thread to see them). Demented teddy was left with little choice but to stall for your return and thus made posts that in some lights could be considered trolling (as he refused to address the issues or our demands for examples/explanations of your party's plans on how they would deal with the problems) - and instead made posts which paraphrased your post about your promises i.e. Uniting the community is our goal, whilst failing to explain how. Whilst I had sent virtual cookies to anyone who asked for them or voted for us as evidence of my commitment to following my promises and evidence of my seriousness. My supporters even made a video! My supporters and myself then called Teddy and your supporters out on this as we had explained our ideas and your party hadn't. Then your supports latched on to my giving away cookies for fun arguing my party wasn't taking the election seriously.. Then at around 0.32am I negotiated an alliance with the paladins party to join with mine giving us a higher poll score and putting us on your heels. Then I went to bed and at about 4:30am one of my members suggested we tune the whole propaganda and canvassing down aswell as the political arguing as we risked becoming a flame war (I have read the posts and honest believe we never reached that point thou it might have headed that way).
 

Eggsnham

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TimeLord said:
Forgive my denseness but 4 hours ago we were at each others throats...

I finally went to sleep for 4 hours *yay*


What has happened and is the madness over?
We negotiated peace after a five hour flamewar. I could've sworn you were present at that point?

oppp7 said:
I can't tell if this is serious or a parody of the mudslinging BS in politics.
Nope, this was quite real. Unfortunately.
 

TimeLord

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Eggsnham said:
TimeLord said:
Forgive my denseness but 4 hours ago we were at each others throats...

I finally went to sleep for 4 hours *yay*


What has happened and is the madness over?
We negotiated peace after a five hour flamewar. I could've sworn you were present at that point?
I may or may not have been. I do not recall.... I fell asleep infront of my laptop about 4.30amish
 

Claymorez

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Eggsnham said:
TimeLord said:
Forgive my denseness but 4 hours ago we were at each others throats...

I finally went to sleep for 4 hours *yay*


What has happened and is the madness over?
We negotiated peace after a five hour flamewar. I could've sworn you were present at that point?

oppp7 said:
I can't tell if this is serious or a parody of the mudslinging BS in politics.
Nope, this was quite real. Unfortunately.
I wouldn't really call it a flame war, we had an argument that wasn't getting anywhere really and thus it was in some ways us unfairly forcing them to give trolling responses - as furburt wasn't present to ok any explanations they might give, which we lapped up and responded to. Nothing truly insulting was really said. If we carry on all that would stop. People would only be allowed to discuss with their leader/representative what to say and then at the question time the leaders discuss the goals of their party without attacking other party goals.