Poll: was i out of line?

[bluepilot]

If somebody trespasses onto your land you have the right to remove them using reasonable force.

Also, considering the fact that if the little hell spawn broke their leg on that fence or cut themselves on the glass window that they broke , YOU could have been sued and YOU are liable, a good ear twist should send the message home.

I`d also install an electric fence in the name of 'pest control'.

 

[stonethered]

I don't think you were, not even for the ear twisting (which frankly sounds totally situationally appropriate, and is exactly how it would have happened if it had been a movie). Kids should have known better than to trespass, assuming they knew it was someone's property. Lady shouldn't have yelled at you for it, but her reaction is quite understandable. She was angry, and probably a bit scared about what you were doing; odds are nobody has ever actually laid hands on her kids before (and I'd say that after trespassing and vandalizing your private property, somebody probably ought to).

Could you have handled it better? Yeah, you could have just tracked down their parents and courteously requested compensation. But at the same time, your actions will have a rather more lasting impact on all of them. And you didn't try to kill anyone, or cause permanent harm. Nobody was threatened. And everything was paid for. As long as there's no legal problems, I'd say you did fine.

Legally, it was child abuse.

There's a very big legal problem here.

Again, I sense hypocrisy for everyone forgetting what happened when they were young kid...

Depends on the region.
And by legal problems, I mean depending on whether anyone wanted to press charges. Generally, the police don't fuss with things unless people take issue with them.

And what exactly is it that we're all forgetting here?

You guys all broke things when you were really young, or your parents did, and you didn't want to take responsibility and you fled... and now look at you all taking issue with it and acting as if it's the worst thing ever and punishment ever made you stop.. bahaha such hypocrisy.

Uhh, not really. Now you're just making false assumptions. I agree that trespassing on someone's garden to get a football is something kids do - there's no harm done in it really, but if I know that if I broke someone's window I'd still tell them, even as a child.

You can't say now what you'd in the past, because you have a different mentality. Nice try but not slip-stream logic for you.

The funniest thing about these posts is that they think it will resonate with the kids because they felt some pain or felt bad? Hah. They will either resent the guy, or they will make fun of him.. might even just ignore it. Thinking one bad situation is going to imprint them is just ignorant.

Oh heck no. When I was a kid It wouldn't have even occurred to me to ask before climbing the fence. Mind you, if I'd heard breaking glass I'd have booked it out of there and I would not have let myself get caught by a mere ear twist.

And some of the physical consequences I received did resonate, I still hate push-ups, but no, never the getting smacked for things. In that regard at least, I'm willing to concede. the Ear twisting was unnecessary, and almost certainly unhelpful. But it did get their attention, I promise you that.

Indeed.. they'll be more careful at getting caught.

That's fine, major corporations, the government, and criminal organizations consider subtlety and discretion a valuable skill. They'll learn something from this; whether its how not to get caught or to not do bad things is their choice.

 

[SecondPrize]

If you enter a property uninvited, and get caught, you don't get to choose how you leave it.

 

[Drauger]

Well from the legal point of view , yes you screwed up but i dont agree with the "legal point of view", when i was a kid ( long time ago) this was a normal behavior and i dont see the harm, now lets wait till u tell us how does the mother handle this =S lawyer? hope she doesnt.

 

[mirasiel]

Seems fine to me and obviously their father is fine with it too.

Next time though I'd secure them by the upper arm, not because it won't hurt its just harder to slip out of.

 

[Havegun]

Fuck no. I'll even commend you on keeping it old-school, with the ear-twisting.

captcha: pig¨s ear - appropriate?

 

[lordbuxton]

It is thus illegal for anyone other than the parents to physically harm in any capacity a child. If they scream when you try to touch them.. you're considered a pedophile.

And then there was fudge.

Fuck that, my land my rules.

The people's land, run by the government, and their rules.

Not YOUR land, you lease your land from the government, or do you not know what rent and taxes are?

If I bought the land then it's private property and not public land, or do you not understand how property law works?

 

[somonels]

Nope, it's like training an animal, you either catch and punish them quickly or they forget what you are punishing them for.
The time I trespassed I got bitten by a german shepard, geez, sorry.

 

[IamQ]

I think you were right. Their ears might hurt a bit, but bo-fucking-ho.

 

[AngryMongoose]

If they weren't walking out of their own accord, I guess so. If you had to chase and tackle them to get a shot at their ear, you were overreacting slightly.

 

[jklinders]

Ear twisting was over the line, but in all other respects you were correct in your actions and feelings. Technically it could perhaps even be considered assault. You should on a legal level be very careful about such things. but the kids need a lot more discipline than they were clearly getting. Hopefully the father will get them to work off the debt they earned for him as an object lesson.

 

[dementis]

If there were more people like you maybe kids wouldn't be such disgusting little cretins.

 

[Delsana]

It is thus illegal for anyone other than the parents to physically harm in any capacity a child. If they scream when you try to touch them.. you're considered a pedophile.

And then there was fudge.

Fuck that, my land my rules.

The people's land, run by the government, and their rules.

Not YOUR land, you lease your land from the government, or do you not know what rent and taxes are?

If I bought the land then it's private property and not public land, or do you not understand how property law works?

And yet the law can always claim imminent domain... that's how free ways were built. Hahaha... your land, lol...

Captcha is FACE THE MUSIC.

Time to face the music of life.

 

[Delsana]

If there were more people like you maybe kids wouldn't be such disgusting little cretins.

If people didn't call other people disgusting little cretins and take a shine towards aggressive response such as you do, perhaps the world would be a better place.

 

[FEichinger]

Given that there are states that allow shooting trespassers point-blank, the "you shouldn't have hurt them, you baddie!" crowd should tone it down a bit ...
That said, twisting the ears may be a moral grey area, but let's be honest ... Children get nastier, more annoying and flat-out think they could do whatever they want, as opposed to even a few years ago. I'd rather twist a scared-of-consequences child's ears, than letting one of the annoying ones go free because their parents keep them sacred. (Oh yay, play on words! scared, sacred ... get it? ... yeh ... right ...)
Grey area, but reasonable and perfectly legitimate.