Poll: Weed - Legal or Illegal?

[dex-dex]

speaking of pot
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/04/13/ontario-closer-than-ever-to-legalization-of-marijuana/ if this goes through then weed will be able to be grown in my home province. go WOO!
also I have never seen a guy who is high want to punch that prick across the bar the most they want is poutine and cheetos.

Damnit now I want Poutine. Why would you do that?!

because when I go to school I shall be getting one!
and just to be an even bigger douche
POUTINE!

But.. But.. I live in Sweden! I have to leave the country to get one..

are you stating that you don't have french fries, cheese curds or gravy in Sweden? if so I am never going there!

 

[Tipsy Giant]

I'm heading straight past all possible health issues on this one.

I hate the smell, don't want people to be smoking around me. Ruins the air. I live in mid California, if it was legalized you couldn't go a block without smelling it. I hate smoking general. Burning something and sucking on the smoke is a completely stupid concept when you think about it anyways.

It can bring out the worst in people.

Also saying it kills less is probably not a way to look at it. Many people each year are killed over having possession of it.

People would drive and smoke it which would be like drinking and driving in a sense. If it was legalized the death rate would go up from related causes.

The people that would drive and smoke are the same irresponsible people who would drink and drive.
You can't soften the corners of the world while telling people it's to keep them safe, life is dangerous.
No-one should be able to tell another person what they do with their recreation time if it doesn't harm someone and the second it does they can be punished for it.
Really all drugs should be legal, if you are stupid enough to take heroin and then you die, that my friend is survival of fittest and we could do with a few less idiots procreating.

 

[NuclearPenguin]

speaking of pot
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/04/13/ontario-closer-than-ever-to-legalization-of-marijuana/ if this goes through then weed will be able to be grown in my home province. go WOO!
also I have never seen a guy who is high want to punch that prick across the bar the most they want is poutine and cheetos.

Damnit now I want Poutine. Why would you do that?!

because when I go to school I shall be getting one!
and just to be an even bigger douche
POUTINE!

But.. But.. I live in Sweden! I have to leave the country to get one..

are you stating that you don't have french fries, cheese curds or gravy in Sweden? if so I am never going there!

We don't have cheese curds, but otherwise, we do have the rest but it doesn't come in a white container that insightly informs you "God damn you're fat."

 

[MuppeTeN]

To me is the same as cigarretes.

I don't care if you smoke, just don't do it near me (Second hand smoke) and don't do task that require focus while your high.

 

[NuclearPenguin]

I'm heading straight past all possible health issues on this one.

I hate the smell, don't want people to be smoking around me. Ruins the air. I live in mid California, if it was legalized you couldn't go a block without smelling it. I hate smoking general. Burning something and sucking on the smoke is a completely stupid concept when you think about it anyways.

It can bring out the worst in people.

Also saying it kills less is probably not a way to look at it. Many people each year are killed over having possession of it.

People would drive and smoke it which would be like drinking and driving in a sense. If it was legalized the death rate would go up from related causes.

Really all drugs should be legal, if you are stupid enough to take heroin and then you die, that my friend is survival of fittest and we could do with a few less idiots procreating.

I'd rather call it "Natural Selection" than "Survival of the Fittest"

 

[VonBrewskie]

Not important to me anymore. It's been decriminalized out here in CA, so as long as you have a card, you really don't have to worry about local cops anymore. Just have to play it cool, not pop your lip off, and you almost always are let go. I have been stopped about five times in the last three years with the ganj on me. Never got a citation, never even got it confiscated. Just played it cool, showed them my card, and went my merry way. Decriminalization is the key.

 

[SinisterGehe]

I'd say keep it illegal, people don't seem to use reasoning to begin with so there is no need to cloud it even more. If it would be up to me I would ban alcohol also, but we all know where that led to. And we did just fine without weed for the longest time so why should we start legalizing it? It is not even a plant that belongs to the nature of Finland.

I say it keep it illegal. (Let the flaming start!)

no one cares about finland

That has anything to do with what?
I had to clarify my standing on this subject since on this board everyone assume everyone is American so If I would stated that (All alcohol is sold by government owned shop) would been puzzling to others, so for them to understand why and how I constructed my opinion they had to know that little fact about me.

And post about the subject or sod off. Thank you.

 

[Gaiseric]

I'm split on the issue. The idea of additional tax revenue to help my state is nice. And less tax dollars spent on arresting people with weed is also a plus. I am also big on personal freedoms.

I don't smoke and never will, but my brothers do and they are prime examples for it to remain illegal. Before they started smoking weed they did well in school and after their grades plummeted and both dropped out of high school(still don't even have a GED). Both have developed a severe attitude involving weed and defend it against anyone who says anything other than legalize it. As near as I can tell they are addicted to smoking. They do it everyday(or multiple times) and if they don't have the money and don't have the opportunity to smoke they get angry and easily agitated. Without realizing their doing it they've based their lives on when they can get high next.

My older brother has a medical marijuana card for kidney stones, but buys weed all the time and smokes all the time even though he doesn't have stones everyday, week, or month. He wants my younger brother to get one too(despite that he doesn't have any medical conditions) so he wouldn't get in trouble with the police if he was pulled over. He abuses the system, wants my other brother to abuse the system and then swears that no one abuses the system.

I know not everyone who smokes is like this and I have good friends who prove that, but I've meet more than a few like my brothers.

Additionally I hate the smell

 

[dex-dex]

We don't have cheese curds, but otherwise, we do have the rest but it doesn't come in a white container that insightly informs you "God damn you're fat."

oh yeah I love getting the container that says"to hell with my 70's"

 

[Vrach]

Legal, with some laws resembling drinking/smoking laws in place (ie. no smoking in public outside specifically designated places for it, no driving under the influence etc.)

 

[Britisheagle]

I hate the "But drinking kills more people than weed!" argument.

Thats because LESS people do it.

Besides drinking in moderation (well certain drinks) has been proven to be good for your heart and when your out drinking a single pint (something I tend to do) is hardly going to make you an alcoholic. Its binge drinking thats dangerous and I agree that is more dangerous than smoking weed in moderation.

But smoking 6 bags of weed is arguably just as bad as drinking 6 gallons of beer.

I guess I'm a little one sided on the issue, as I know many people that it has turned their lives upside down. Namely a lad 2 years ago who had nothing in his room apart from a matress as he pawned all his stuff so he could pay back a very angry drug dealer and get his next fix. And I knew another lad who had a bad trip, thought someone was trying to get into his house, he quit after that and came out at A level with 2 A*s and a C. Maybe coincidence.

At the end of the day though a person can do what they like with their own body. People are going to do it whether its legal or not. So why not? Sure legalize it, just very strict and charge an absolute fortune (for the safety of not having to deal with dealers). More tax from the addicts means better living for the majorities.

 

[Avalanche91]

Being Dutch I am kinda obligated to vote legal am I not?

Being stoned at work or while driving gets treated the same as being drunk, and only people younger then 18 buy that stuff ilegally. Adults just purchase that stuff in coffeeshops.

Being raised in a enviroment were the use of marhiuana is legally and socially accepted takes away a lot of the thrill I imagine americans get, so people are pretty mature about the whole deal.

Sure you get sóme douchebag stoners, but they would try to get a buzz regardless of legal or ilegal weed.

By all means though, keep it ilegal in the states.......we get a lot of tourism out of our legalised marhiuana deal.

 

[squeeble69]

I want it to be legalised, but it won't be any time soon; the government doesn't have any faith in us, and they think that making something available makes it more desirable, which is actually opposite to the truth. It's actually easier for me to get weed than it is to get alcohol anyway, because dealers don't check for ID, which means that the government is not helping anyone by keeping weed illegal, and is in fact arbitrarily turning normal citizens like me into criminals just because of a personal preference. I could say more, but I'd be here for days, so I'll leave it at that.

And just so people know, I live in the UK, I don't know how different it is anywhere else.

 

[n03s]

I hate the "But drinking kills more people than weed!" argument.

Thats because LESS people do it.

Besides drinking in moderation (well certain drinks) has been proven to be good for your heart and when your out drinking a single pint (something I tend to do) is hardly going to make you an alcoholic. Its binge drinking thats dangerous and I agree that is more dangerous than smoking weed in moderation.

But smoking 6 bags of weed is arguably just as bad as drinking 6 gallons of beer.

Well pretty much everything you abuse in your life has consequences.. Thats a rule, the big arguement is that other things equally addictive and bad for ones health are legal only because they have a strong place in the market.

 

[Jjkaybomb]

No matter how much people want it to be legal, and no matter how harmless it is, it still slightly alters the mental state, which affects workplace productivity/safety, however slightly. The United States isnt allowed to make something like that legal. The best it can possibly be is a controlled substance, but then it has to have a point or a reason to be sold, like a medical reason.

I dont care either way if its legal or not, I dont smoke the stuff. But I dont see it ever being legal here either.

 

[squeeble69]

I hate the "But drinking kills more people than weed!" argument.

Thats because LESS people do it.

Besides drinking in moderation (well certain drinks) has been proven to be good for your heart and when your out drinking a single pint (something I tend to do) is hardly going to make you an alcoholic. Its binge drinking thats dangerous and I agree that is more dangerous than smoking weed in moderation.

But smoking 6 bags of weed is arguably just as bad as drinking 6 gallons of beer.

No-one has ever overdosed on weed. Ever. But people die from alcohol poisoning all the time. That's all to do with the substance, not the amount of people taking it.

 

[infohippie]

Definitely illegal. Despite all the people actively wanting to believe otherwise, it has tremendously harmful effects over the long term; both directly and indirectly.

Assertion does not equal truth. Please cite reliable studies.

 

[Avalanche91]

No matter how much people want it to be legal, and no matter how harmless it is, it still slightly alters the mental state, which affects workplace productivity/safety, however slightly. The United States isnt allowed to make something like that legal, especially if it has no strong medical purpose.

I agree that the whole medicinal marhiuana is a load of BS, but other then that....I'm not big on my American laws, but this is a flawed argument.

Any alcoholic beaverage alters the mental state, hell cafeïne drinks alter the mental state. I don't see the united states making red bull or coffee ilegal.

 

[ChadSexington]

I think we should legalize it and yes, I am a pot smoker. First off pot is not worse for your lungs then tobacco, it has considerably less chemicals etc. and has no known proven connections to lung cancer and emphysema simply because cigarettes are full of chemicals and pot is not. I hold no illusions that it is good for your lungs, it's smoke, but it's not as bad as tobacco. The links to psychosis and schizophrenia are true when you are speaking about young people, people who are not fully developed, in adults it doesn't happen and furthermore you have to have a predisposition to schizophrenia to have pot bring it out. Memory loss happens while you are high the rest is a myth. I have researched this and due to laziness will not post links. Secondly if we legalize and tax pot we take money out of the hands of criminals and can use it for any number of things. This point does not need to be expanded on. Third, some people use it as medication. I do myself. I am an insomniac and pot helps me sleep, this has had a very positive influence on my life and I would be happy to think that it could do the same for others. Fourth of course you could fire someone for showing up to work high, they're intoxicated at work, the same rules would apply as alcohol. Fifth Marijuana is a relatively safe drug, certainly safer then alcohol. Alcohol does more damage to your body then most people will admit (I am not anti alcohol, I'm drinking as I type this, I'm just realistic.) whereas pot does less damage then most people will admit. Sixth, it is impossible to be chemically addicted to marijuana. Psychological addiction is possible but it does not compare to even caffeine addiction, the withdrawals consist of cravings alone whereas something like alcohol or even caffeine can leave you in cold sweats and throwing up with a migraine to go with it. I've had more problems with caffeine then I've had with pot and I'm a daily pot smoker. Sorry about the wall of text but hopefully I've changed some minds, if not thank you for taking the time to at least read what I have to say.