Poll: Weed - Legal or Illegal?

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NuclearPenguin

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ChadSexington said:
I think we should legalize it and yes, I am a pot smoker. First off pot is not worse for your lungs then tobacco, it has considerably less chemicals etc. and has no known proven connections to lung cancer and emphysema simply because cigarettes are full of chemicals and pot is not. I hold no illusions that it is good for your lungs, it's smoke, but it's not as bad as tobacco. The links to psychosis and schizophrenia are true when you are speaking about young people, people who are not fully developed, in adults it doesn't happen and furthermore you have to have a predisposition to schizophrenia to have pot bring it out. Memory loss happens while you are high the rest is a myth. I have researched this and due to laziness will not post links. Secondly if we legalize and tax pot we take money out of the hands of criminals and can use it for any number of things. This point does not need to be expanded on. Third, some people use it as medication. I do myself. I am an insomniac and pot helps me sleep, this has had a very positive influence on my life and I would be happy to think that it could do the same for others. Fourth of course you could fire someone for showing up to work high, they're intoxicated at work, the same rules would apply as alcohol. Fifth Marijuana is a relatively safe drug, certainly safer then alcohol. Alcohol does more damage to your body then most people will admit (I am not anti alcohol, I'm drinking as I type this, I'm just realistic.) whereas pot does less damage then most people will admit. Sixth, it is impossible to be chemically addicted to marijuana. Psychological addiction is possible but it does not compare to even caffeine addiction, the withdrawals consist of cravings alone whereas something like alcohol or even caffeine can leave you in cold sweats and throwing up with a migraine to go with it. I've had more problems with caffeine then I've had with pot and I'm a daily pot smoker. Sorry about the wall of text but hopefully I've changed some minds, if not thank you for taking the time to at least read what I have to say.
Please. Please. Please. For the love of everything you care for. Paragraph.
 

tahrey

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Wow... appears being a smoker makes you type the way you speak when you're high. Who knew.

Walter Sobchak said:
no one cares about finland
I must respectfully disagree...
 

Neverhoodian

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I regard marijuana the same as I do tobacco smoke. It smells gross and is a bad habit to pick up, but hey, it's your body.

At this point I kind of wish the U.S. would legalize the stuff just so people would shut up about it and deal with more important issues. The extra tax revenue would help the country's financial situation.
 

Haydyn

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Legalize it.

1. Criminals benefit greatly from it being illegal. Drug dealers don't want it legalized.

2. If we regulate it, we can make the decision when we should be able to smoke, rather than drug dealers selling to teens way too early in life.

3. It's actually easier for a teenager to get marijuana then it is an adult. It's also easier to get marijuana than it is alcohol as a teenager. Regulating it means we can keep it away from teens who should not be smoking it until a certain age moreso than not regulating it.

4. Out of tobacco, marijuana, and alcohol, marijuana is the least harmful. At a marijuana celebration day in Canada every year, only one violent crime was commited at the festival, and it was by someone under the influence of alcohol.

5. 1 out of 104 people who smoke weed ever try cocaine. Weed is more of a wall than it is a gateway drug. If weed didn't exist more people would be doing heavier drugs.

6. One of the core reasons marijuana is outlawed is because of "the network". This consists of all the people that benefit from weed being illegal. Yacht salesmen selling to people making 300k+ a year off drug growing/smuggling. Companies designing pills and painkillers that would tank in sales if weed was legal. Tax payer money going to drug busting forces, most of which target marijuana. Judges getting payed thousands of dollars for a few minutes in court to send teenagers to tax payer funded drug clinics. The danger of weed is stretched to the limit to protect the interest of people profiting off a natural substance being banned.

7. Most people who are so adament that marijuana is evil do not know enough about it. They grow up with all the after school specials and see the effects of harder drugs and instantly think that marijuana is bad. If you would have asked me when I was fourteen why marijuana was bad I couldn't give you a decent answer. It's the "Drugs are bad, m'kay" mentality.

I love Mary Jane. It makes everything better. Some friends on Xbox live love it when I get high and play games. You think Castle Crashers is hilarious in a juvenile way? Play that game baked. It's magical.

On a personal level, I find marijuana MUCH SAFER than alcohol. Alcoholism runs in my family. Aunt was killed by a drunk driver. I've seen the neighbor lady at my old house come up to our door staggering drunk trying to tell us that her husband was friends of us or something. I have driven high before. Surprisenly, I retained my motor skills. There's a reason you hear about drunk drivers more often than stoned drivers. I won't drive drunk in any situation, but driving after a couple hits can be safe, and fun. I don't wanna go out and do bad things when I'm high, just wanna have fun. I get depressed when I drink.

Compare it to tobacco.How many reports do we get of people geting lung cancer from smoking pot? How many people do you know have died from marijuana use? I've heard rumors of people dieing due to panic attacks or overconsumption, but that's nothing compared to the amount of people that die from ovr the counter asprin. Think about it: most of the stuff you can get at your local pharmacy is more likely to end your life than the illegal substance known as weed.

I know a very conservative man, to the point even mentioning something like gay marriage or abortion will start up an argument, and even he thinks weed is harmless and should be legal/regulated. In my mind, you are either dangerously conservative, or dangerously uneducated, or both, to think that marijuana being illegal makes the world a better place.

Well, it's 4:30 am. I'm off to the gym for two hours of working out and basketball. Then I'll come back and get ready for college. Gotta make some chili for a cookoff, clean out my car, flirt with the barista at my favorite Starbucks. That doesn't sound like the life of a stoner, but I assure you I love my weed.
 

Sepphyre

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I don't smoke (anything) but I would vote to have it legalised. Quite hypocritical that it isn't.
 

Tipsy Giant

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NuclearPenguin said:
Tipsy Giant said:
TwitchyGamer101 said:
I'm heading straight past all possible health issues on this one.

I hate the smell, don't want people to be smoking around me. Ruins the air. I live in mid California, if it was legalized you couldn't go a block without smelling it. I hate smoking general. Burning something and sucking on the smoke is a completely stupid concept when you think about it anyways.

It can bring out the worst in people.

Also saying it kills less is probably not a way to look at it. Many people each year are killed over having possession of it.

People would drive and smoke it which would be like drinking and driving in a sense. If it was legalized the death rate would go up from related causes.
Really all drugs should be legal, if you are stupid enough to take heroin and then you die, that my friend is survival of fittest and we could do with a few less idiots procreating.
I'd rather call it "Natural Selection" than "Survival of the Fittest"
Call it what you will but pandering to the idiots to protect us all is insulting and backwards
 

mikespoff

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Sarpedon said:
Smoking weed is like smoking tobacco (which is perfectly legal), granted that the chances of lung problems and cancer are much higher with marijuana then tobacco. Smoking weed is also much more dangerous, in my opinion, than drinking (which is perfectly legal). More people have died from drunk driving and drinking-related things than from getting high on weed.
1. No, it's not like tobacco. Regular marijuana use results in psychosis in 10% of users and has been linked to higher incidence of schizophrenia; this is far more damaging than similar usage of either tobacco or alcohol.

2. I'd prefer to eliminate tobacco smoking, so that argument that "it's no worse than tobacco" - even if true (see above) - would still not justify legalising it. It's a harmful substance, you'd need a strong positive justification for legalising it, not just that it's on par with other harmful stuff.

3. You are correct when you write that smoking weed is much more dangerous than drinking alcohol.

4. The numerical count of drunk driving and marijuana-related accidents is meaningless; there is no context and the relative userbase (and social acceptability) makes this a useless statistic.
 

mikespoff

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Tipsy Giant said:
NuclearPenguin said:
Tipsy Giant said:
Really all drugs should be legal, if you are stupid enough to take heroin and then you die, that my friend is survival of fittest and we could do with a few less idiots procreating.
I'd rather call it "Natural Selection" than "Survival of the Fittest"
Call it what you will but pandering to the idiots to protect us all is insulting and backwards
Hard to call it "survival of the fittest" when someone freaks out on a bad drug trip and kills someone else...
 

babinro

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From an economical standpoint, legalization would be a great.

From a society standpoint, we have enough legal ways to mess up our lives, no need to keep adding to them.
 

The Gnome King

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NuclearPenguin said:
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How many people have died from smoking it? I'm just wondering.
Nada. 0.
That would be wrong.

I witnessed one personally.

Firm numbers are however difficult to determine with an illegal substance.
Please give some more data since even medical reports right now don't have anything conclusive on the cardiac effects of marijuana; which are the most *likely* way marijuana/THC could cause any medical issues.

I've read quite a few interesting case reports on cardiac events that MIGHT have been related to marijuana use, but nothing conclusive where the coroner report could state; yup, he died of a heart attack or sudden cardiac death due to marijuana use.

It *does* work the heart about as hard as, say, climbing a flight of stairs so I think that when/if studies are done they might show people with advanced heart disease should avoid it; but I think that's about it. That and the aforementioned orthostatic hypotension.

What death-inducing event did you see marijuana directly cause? I'm honestly curious; even as a non-smoker.
 

Tipsy Giant

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mikespoff said:
Tipsy Giant said:
NuclearPenguin said:
Tipsy Giant said:
Really all drugs should be legal, if you are stupid enough to take heroin and then you die, that my friend is survival of fittest and we could do with a few less idiots procreating.
I'd rather call it "Natural Selection" than "Survival of the Fittest"
Call it what you will but pandering to the idiots to protect us all is insulting and backwards
Hard to call it "survival of the fittest" when someone freaks out on a bad drug trip and kills someone else...
you are right and making drugs illegal stops that how?

it has nothing to do with the argument for legalisation, it is just fear mongering, driving while drunk is illegal yet alcohol isn't, why anything different for weed?