Poll: Weed - Legal or Illegal?

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The Gnome King

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NuclearPenguin said:
Well, to be fair, my ex had to go to the hospital the first time she smoked it but that was due to a pre-existing case of epilepsy.
Hmm, I was unaware that smoking pot could bring on epileptic seizures. Interesting.
 

Even McNobleface

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also i'm i'm pretty sure no-one else has yet.

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NuclearPenguin

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The Gnome King said:
NuclearPenguin said:
Well, to be fair, my ex had to go to the hospital the first time she smoked it but that was due to a pre-existing case of epilepsy.
Hmm, I was unaware that smoking pot could bring on epileptic seizures. Interesting.
Alcohol and the like also triggers it. Flashing colors and such do not. (For her that is)
 

Pinklespork

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I've had this conversation many a time with people who are against weed, people who are for it, indifferent to it and those that smoke it on a regular basis. And even my mum, actually.
Having never had the opportunity to try, but have sat in a room full of creative, zany stoners, I don't really see what the problem is. It's essentially the same deal as with alcohol, really. Legalise it, sure. Not hurting anyone by doing that. The reason pot has this nasty aura floating around it is because it's forbidden, and thereby it becomes a yucky criminal activity to distribute and to buy it.
For one thing, the government clearly has little concept about how much money they'd make from fashioning pot shops like they do with tobacco shops and bottle shops. Not only that, but it'd be less about people sneaking around to X's house and not getting caught. No one's going to be attacking another guy because he didn't pay up because if it were legal, it'd be a matter of having the money in the first place to go to the shop and buy it. It's when you start selling the stuff out of your backyard that it becomes illegal. Just how alcohol would be, too, if I started distributing and making the stuff in my bathtub.
Cheers, guys!
 

Pinklespork

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Oh, but I do think that the nastier drugs like ecstasy, cocaine and heroin should be kept illegal.
That stuff makes you batshit insane, it does. I'm not condoning that /anyone/ drive, turn up for work or take care of a child while completely stoned, but marijuana has a far smaller and less detrimental (short term) effect than the worse stuff I mentioned earlier.
Pot grows in the ground, after all. Meth comes from a dodgy meth lab. The 'ingredients' going into that aren't going to be any safer or better coming out of a professional Meth 'R' Us shop at the local shopping centre.
 

NuclearPenguin

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Even McNobleface said:
also i'm i'm pretty sure no-one else has yet.

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Pinklespork said:
Oh, but I do think that the nastier drugs like ecstasy, cocaine and heroin should be kept illegal.
Ecstasy does not belong in your list of "nasty" drugs - please see this study [http://www.lancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2810%2961462-6/fulltext] or this quick overview [http://www.dailytech.com/Study+Alcohol+is+Deadliest+Drug+More+Dangerous+Than+Heroin/article20038.htm] if you can't be bothered with the whole study. MDMA is nowhere near as harmful as most drugs, including alcohol.
 

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NuclearPenguin said:
Elcarsh said:
ENKC said:
We don't have cheese curds, but otherwise, we do have the rest but it doesn't come in a white container that insightly informs you "God damn you're fat."
Actually, we do have that. It's called "Keso". It's essentially just cheese curds.
Well. Time for me to get a hell of alot fatter. You should not have informed me of this.
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Techno Squidgy

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Legalise / decriminalise ALL drugs and provide help and support for addicts. Cannabis has greatly improved the quality of my life, but the stigma that comes with it is incredible.

I also hate the unbelievable hypocrisy when it comes to drugs. "You get high?! What's wrong with you?! Oh, yeah, as I was saying me and my mates are going to get totally smashed at the party tonight!"

Either it's all okay, or none of it's okay.
 

Hiikuro

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lithium.jelly said:
Pinklespork said:
Oh, but I do think that the nastier drugs like ecstasy, cocaine and heroin should be kept illegal.
Ecstasy does not belong in your list of "nasty" drugs - please see this study [http://www.lancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2810%2961462-6/fulltext] or this quick overview [http://www.dailytech.com/Study+Alcohol+is+Deadliest+Drug+More+Dangerous+Than+Heroin/article20038.htm] if you can't be bothered with the whole study. MDMA is nowhere near as harmful as most drugs, including alcohol.
I just want to throw this in here, which as far as I know is the video version of the same study. I found it to be extremely interesting at least.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6108672696241807159

Though I am not going to join in on the discussion, I've spent far too much energy in my life thinking about (as in reading about, studying) drugs, now I just want to avoid them as much as possible (that is not to say that I am opposed to most of them, but the topic has caused me too many headaches and depression).
 

NuclearPenguin

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ENKC said:
NuclearPenguin said:
Elcarsh said:
ENKC said:
We don't have cheese curds, but otherwise, we do have the rest but it doesn't come in a white container that insightly informs you "God damn you're fat."
Actually, we do have that. It's called "Keso". It's essentially just cheese curds.
Well. Time for me to get a hell of alot fatter. You should not have informed me of this.
Quote incorrectly attributed to me.
Wait.. What?
 

ultimateownage

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granted that the chances of lung problems and cancer are much higher with marijuana then tobacco. Smoking weed is also much more dangerous, in my opinion, than drinking
It depends whether or not you're smoking it or using it pure with a bong, as well as who the dealer is. If it was regulated it would solve the latter problem and the government could also solve the former if they tried to regulate the contents of spliffs.
As for Alcohol, I think Marijuana is slightly worse but they are both relatively harmless natural drugs that only become dangerous depending on the user and amount taken.
It should be legal and regulated, whether or not it should be a Private or Public industry is a different matter entirely though. It being illegal is just more trouble than it's worth, considering the relative dangers of it and the ties with organised crime.
 

C2Ultima

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Well, I'm not sure why it isn't legal. Weed is about 1/4 as harmful as ciggarettes, and those have been sold for the entire 20th century.
 

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Avalanche91 said:
Jjkaybomb said:
No matter how much people want it to be legal, and no matter how harmless it is, it still slightly alters the mental state, which affects workplace productivity/safety, however slightly. The United States isnt allowed to make something like that legal, especially if it has no strong medical purpose.
I agree that the whole medicinal marhiuana is a load of BS, but other then that....I'm not big on my American laws, but this is a flawed argument.

Any alcoholic beaverage alters the mental state, hell cafeïne drinks alter the mental state. I don't see the united states making red bull or coffee ilegal.
Well, we did try and make alcohol illegal at one point... for different reasons, sure, but its something thats just too pervasive and accepted to ban at this point.

And caffeine doesnt impair judgement. At least, I dont think it does o_o
Yeah, my argument was poorly worded.
But its still why I believe it'll never be made legal. Its a recreational substance that has no obvious benefits.
 

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CM156 said:
OT: I do hate hearing about the "medical use" agrument. You want to get high, so stop pretending like weed is some "cure all" drug. I would respect them a lot more were they honest.
It's not being promoted as a cure-all drug really. More as a useful aid to several disorders. There's evidence that it helps people with Alzheimers, and some (albeit dubious) evidence that weed can kill cancerous cells, although that one I've not seen any of the evidence for properly. More realistically it can help people retain their appetites when they're going through kemotherapy, and this works with most diseases or treatments that can cause lack of appetite. It also doesn't really conflict with other medicine so it can be used at any stage of other treatments.

And as far as recreational uses go, it's a lot safer than the current ones, especially alcohol. I agree it should never be used while driving or operating heavy machinery or any of that dangerous kind of stuff, much like how alcohol is restricted right now. And to combat people complaining about the smell, perhaps it must be taken inside as well, much like it's also illegal in many places to drink in public streets and that.

A documentary I watched a while back had these old women who suffered from arthiritus. So one of them grew weed and baked it into cakes and had her friends round for them. Apparently it helps every one of them.
 

magicmonkeybars

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People will smoke weed be it legal or not, so might as well make it legal.
On the other hand governments and overbearing parents need a scapegoat and weed is as good a patsy as garden gnomes for all the evils of mankind so why the hell not.
 

matt87_50

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Legal - then upgrade the severity of any crime they commit when under the influence of it.

if someone dies because of a car accident they cause while heavily under the influence, for instance. death sentence.

you get the idea.

and yeah, the same should probably apply for drinking as well...
 

ENKC

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NuclearPenguin said:
ENKC said:
NuclearPenguin said:
Elcarsh said:
ENKC said:
We don't have cheese curds, but otherwise, we do have the rest but it doesn't come in a white container that insightly informs you "God damn you're fat."
Actually, we do have that. It's called "Keso". It's essentially just cheese curds.
Well. Time for me to get a hell of alot fatter. You should not have informed me of this.
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Wait.. What?
Actually the nested quote that you quoted was incorrectly attributed to me. Darn confusing quote trees.