Haha here it is the other way around.
Police: "You cant smoke weed"
Spirited Copenhagen youth:
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(i think that means F off, but im unsure. The result is the same almost everytime the cops go in)
Poll: Weed - Legal or Illegal?
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Police: "You cant smoke weed"
Spirited Copenhagen youth:
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(i think that means F off, but im unsure. The result is the same almost everytime the cops go in)
No alcohol is not a controlled substance. If it was the laws around it would be more or less observed. There are plenty of people I know who started drinking around the ages of 12 and 14. Does that mean we should lower the drinking age as a disincentive? Just because there is quality control does not mean it is a fully controlled substance.Homo Carnivorous said:
Those stuff are no where near the degree of a risk or drain on a countries public services than drugs. Now you're just being stupid and making strawman arguments. Sugar and hair colouring are not addictive like alcohol, tobacco and weed and other drugs can be. Well not addictive in the traditional sense.
The fact that it is a gateway drug is true. I know people who have done weed and they have said that they have taken stuff while stoned with weed that they would have never taken while being sober. So yes it can be in [HEADING=2]SOME[/HEADING] cases a gateway drug. I know that for all people it is not a gateway drug but it can be. It is not a theory it is a fact that that while stoned some people are more willing to try other drugs.
You don't know that making it legalized would make it more culturally accepted. Do you have a magic crystal ball that can tell the future?
but ofcourse it is. Silly wordgames doesnt change that. If you want to make or sell alcohol, you have to get a license that requires that you fullfill certain criteria. Similarly, if you want to sell crack get a gun and youre good to go.
Which is the 'controlled' substance in reality do you think? The police have what control over drugs. Zero. Thats how much control the police and the state have over illegal drugs.
you are kidding right?
yeah and i have heard the excuse from people who drink alcohol "I didnt know what i did, i was too drunk etc" so often, that it equally applies. Most people who use cocaine here, use it together with alcohol. you see, with cocaine, they can drink more before they have to call quits and go home. Ergo...alcohol is a gateway drug that leads to cocaine abuse.
It would make it LESS accepted. Right now weed has 'rebel appeal'. All the cool kids are doing it, the artists, the cool television personalities often insinuate that they smoke or used to because...fuck the man!.
Keep it illegal. It makes sure 10 year olds don't take it up cause its cool like how smoking is "cool" to them. I may smoke it myself occasionally, but I see the effects quite a bit, cause half my mates are heavy weed smokers and some of them have taken MDMA before as well. I know it sounds hypocritical because I smoke it on the rare occasion (once or twice a month), but never try weed. It's honestly dumber than taking a hard drug because weed is super easy (you don't realize it at first) to get and it doesn't feel like it is going to do long-term damage at first. But it will.
That and every year 10/year 11 with a bag of weed to sell will sell it to anyone. Too many younger people (14 - 18) are shotting weed in my area now hoping for a quick buck. It's saddening really.
That and every year 10/year 11 with a bag of weed to sell will sell it to anyone. Too many younger people (14 - 18) are shotting weed in my area now hoping for a quick buck. It's saddening really.
So why are there so much money in it? If it was legal or not illegal it would have to adjust its price like all other goods. And since it in technical term is a weed thats a pest to get rid of once it has infected your property, I imagine the real world price wouldnt drive a lot of 14 year olds out to sell it since a newspaper route would land them more money.
"weed here, weed here, get yours today, 1 dollar per 50pound bale".
Legal.
Not even for the fact that it is fun to do and can have beneficial effects of people. But because of the revenue you can make of selling it (it is currently one number cash crop) and the huge cut back on government spending: catching and incriminating people for simple possession, holding low level criminals in jail, drug cartels for weed would cease to be a problem, ect.
Plus its nice to sit back with a j with some homies every now and than.
Not even for the fact that it is fun to do and can have beneficial effects of people. But because of the revenue you can make of selling it (it is currently one number cash crop) and the huge cut back on government spending: catching and incriminating people for simple possession, holding low level criminals in jail, drug cartels for weed would cease to be a problem, ect.
Plus its nice to sit back with a j with some homies every now and than.
Pretty certain weed is illegal.
What? Do I want it to be? Sorry, bit wasted, didn't understand the questions.
Damn, out of bourbon. Be right back.
Addendum
I think the most honest thing I have ever heard about drug use was this.
If I had known, really understood, that it would change me permanently, I might not have done it. But I just don't know, now.
What? Do I want it to be? Sorry, bit wasted, didn't understand the questions.
Damn, out of bourbon. Be right back.
Addendum
I think the most honest thing I have ever heard about drug use was this.
If I had known, really understood, that it would change me permanently, I might not have done it. But I just don't know, now.
try and find grant money for a sutdy that involves studying the positive sides of pot or drug use. Get back to me.
I don't really care tbh. I have no interest in smoking the stuff as smoking has killed a quarter of my close family (mostly through passive smoking). Most people would have a vendeta against the stuff if they had to go through that, but quite frankly, so long as people are having fun and don't care about the risks to themselves, more power to them. I'd rather die having enjoyed life then having feared death all my life.
That being said, could people please stop smoking in my face? Especially when I leave a bar, they'd be like 30 people each having many a fag all blowing it out in my face. It's exactly like spitting gum out on my shoes, just please stop doing it. I mean, why do you have to crowd around the door, there's plenty of space AROUND the door, out of the way of people trying to get in and out. A little common sense is all I ask...
That being said, could people please stop smoking in my face? Especially when I leave a bar, they'd be like 30 people each having many a fag all blowing it out in my face. It's exactly like spitting gum out on my shoes, just please stop doing it. I mean, why do you have to crowd around the door, there's plenty of space AROUND the door, out of the way of people trying to get in and out. A little common sense is all I ask...
lol thats pretty funny...Peteron said:I dunno, get high, as you people seem to enjoy doing.
but seriously, it should be legal. if u dont like it, dont smoke it. whatever, thats cool.
but if your saying it should remain illegal because:
1) stoned drivers- then u really are very misinformed about the substance, and need to do some research. marijuana does not impair your driving skills.
2) it smells bad- so do half the people you come in contact with on a daily basis. id rather smell weed over body odor, nasty perfumes, cigarettes or alcohol. plus some non-smokers like the smell. NO ONE likes the smell of cigarettes.
3) its harmful in ANY way- it would be VERY MUCH LESS HARMFUL if it were regulated... not that its very harmful anyway... plus thats irrelevant, prescriptions, tobacco and alcohol are all much worse for you. and theyre perfectly legal.
4) a gateway drug- it wouldnt be, if it werent considered an illegal "drug" now would it? if anything alcohol is the gateway drug, alot of people start smoking cigarettes regularly because of it. infact some people smoke only when they drink.
5) almost anything else you can say against legalization- do some research, chances are you've been proven wrong.
NOW THINK ABOUT THIS:
ALL THE TAX MONEY THAT WOULD BE SAVED. ALL THE PEOPLE IN PRISON FOR ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. PLUS THE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON THE GANGS AND DRUG LORDS.
yeah basically theres not very many good reasons for it to stay illegal, if any.
you have no idea what your talking about.Glademaster said:
1) when i was 12-14 weed was easier to get then alcohol. why? i dont need an ID to get weed.
2) weed is not addictive. just like food and hair coloring. and is infact LESS addictive then sugar. do your research.
3) ive explained "gateway drug" a few times on this thread. alcohol is a bigger one. and weed would be less of one if it were legalized. and you saying, and i quote, "It is not a theory it is a fact that that while stoned some people are more willing to try other drugs." is complete bullshit. "WHILE STONED" has nothing to do with it. ive NEVER tried a drug i had not already tried BECAUSE I WAS STONED, nor did me smoking marijuana have anything to do with any decision ive ever made about trying any substance. COMPLETE BULLSHIT, and im calling u on it... no such thing as gate way drugs. if your willing to try one substance, chances are your willing to try another. its a decision like any other, no more, no less.
4) legalizing it would make it slightly more accepted. in the same way cigarettes and alcohol are. possibly slightly more accepted then the others, due to it being less harmful. although its clearly accepted by AT LEAST half the modernized-population as it is. most people who dont smoke it, really dont care if anyone else does... they might not like the smell, they might not like to be around it, and thats cool. thats a right. i can smoke it outside, or against a wall instead of RIGHT INFRONT of the door to mcdonalds... pretty much, nothing would change for me. other then the fact that i would have nothing to worry about if im smoking it.
who are you to tell me my rights? especially with such a ridiculous subject. the fact weed isnt legal is absurd. especially with all the medical and material products that could be made with it. did you know before prohibition, it was MANDATORY to grow a certain number of plants? for that exact reason... gays can get married here in canada, whatever. im not gay, it doesnt affect me. i prefer not seeing them make out at bus stops & shit. most of them dont, and thats awesome and i thank them. some of them do and dont care how i feel... but, grow up and get over it. life isnt perfect, and thats because, its not just YOUR LIFE.
its really a shame that people who know nothing about a natural plant seem to think its SOOO BAADDD!!! meanwhile you could be getting SMASHED every weekend and beating your wife and kids. but thats cool, cuz alcohol is "controlled" right? ever heard of a stoner beating his wife? lol it'll never happen
I am going to go in reverse. Getting smashed, getting stoned and smoking are all bad. Get over yourself if you think that stuff isn't bad for you. They all do accumulate and kill you slowly. I've heard of less alcoholics trying to and actually jumping out of house windows because they were high on a marijuana mushroom combination. I also don't even think you read my post as I said within the first 10 words Alcohol is not a controlled substance. It is actually my first sentence. So I do kinda think you are trolling a little.dstoner said:
I am going to say this now if it comes down to it you can do whatever the fuck you want. I don't care. It is your body and it is up to you what you do it. If you want to poison yourself slowly doing whatever you want that is grand. I really don't care if something like that is used for medicinal purposes that is fine and is a good use of it. However, using it for recreation is a poor and wasted use of it since it could be you know used as medicine. Why should we waste good medicine on people being bored? No I am not trying to tell you YOUR rights but I was asked in a thread about legalization of a drug whether I thought it should be and I gave my answer. If you don't like it I don't care.
On to your main points.
4) Why is anything like that being accepted a good thing? Regardless of how slow or small the bad effects are they are still there. Whether we are talking about Alcohol, smoking or snorting. I could forgive people doing it years ago as they didn't know this crap was bad for them but now you do. Just because something is accepted by a society doesn't really make it right. I am eat shit 10 billion flies can't be wrong. Once again I really don't care here if you want to smoke it go for it. Just remember I was asked in a thread about legalizing my opinion and I gave it.
3) Just because you have not tried other drugs you wouldn't normally while on it doesn't mean others won't. I know someone who has tried things like ecstasy while on weed. Ecstasy is something he would never ever try if he was "sober". While I will say it does not act as a gateway drug for everyone drinking or smoking weed does have an effect on your decision making and standards. I also never said alcohol wasn't already a gate way drug don't go putting words into my mouth. You can call bullshit all you want but you're going to be one picking up the cards on the table. I have said yes not in all cases but does act as a gateway drug to some. You can say this is because of the dealers ie some do add trace amounts of heroine to soap bar.
2) Weed is addictive. So is food and so is sugar and so is alcohol. In fact so can gaming or facebooking. If you can develop a physical or psychological dependence on something you are addicted. How one does that for facebook gaming and food I don't know. So in the case of marijuana yes in terms of physical dependence it does take heavy use for it to be truly physically addictive. It can easily be for some people quite psychologically addictive. So while people don't suffer true withdrawal from marijuana they actually show some symptoms of it due to a psychological dependence.
1) You also don't need an id to get alcohol. When I was 12-14 it was much easier for people to get alcohol than marijuana. There plenty of people be they older sibling or wierdos willing to buy others alcohol.
Just because its "Better" than cigarettes does NOT make it ok. Cigarettes and alcohol shouldn't even be legal, but they have been around for a very long time (especially alcohol). You can't just take something as addictive as cigarettes away from a population without MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR problems or else it would have already been done.