Poll: Weed - Legal or Illegal?

[dstoner]

because i've seen the damages first hand... the SERIOUS damages it can have. I could never vote yes to making it legal... I couldn't give a shit if thats how you have fun though... just be careful you know?

by any chance do u think those 'damages' could have been less severe, or possibly, completely avoided if it were legal and controlled? i do.

I do too. to be honest, whether it was legal or illegal wouldn't have made a difference the guy i'm talking about had an allergic reaction and his throat swelled up to the size of a watermelon. Sadly he was on his own so he died.

I personally think that legalizing would probably make it easier to get it without any of that drug dealer shit. like some fuckers BLEACHING it to give it more kick... you wouldn't get that a Lloyd's Pharmacy, but everytime I think about saying that I think back about my friend and that fear that legalizing it would mean more people would try it. big grey area eh?

wow really. i knew it was possible to be allergic, but had never actually heard of an incident. very unfortunate, my condolences.

but yeah, thats what i thought u were gettin at. that it was laced or something... a VERY common thing for growers to do, is use windex on their plants as well. (looks like it has more crystals.) and tho i dont kno exactly how bad inhaling windex is, im sure its not good, as its a cleaner, and not meant to ingest.

 

[Lenin211]

Legal. It is less harmful than alcohol and if it was legal, the government could tax it and make money. Good for everyone!

 

[dstoner]

Also, marijuana usage impairs the amygdala and hippocampus (emotion and memory brain centres), and leads to permanent size reduction, permanently inhibiting brain function.

im not calling bullshit, because i think what your saying is true. however, do u have a link or anything?

 

[TemplateResponse]

because i've seen the damages first hand... the SERIOUS damages it can have. I could never vote yes to making it legal... I couldn't give a shit if thats how you have fun though... just be careful you know?

by any chance do u think those 'damages' could have been less severe, or possibly, completely avoided if it were legal and controlled? i do.

I do too. to be honest, whether it was legal or illegal wouldn't have made a difference the guy i'm talking about had an allergic reaction and his throat swelled up to the size of a watermelon. Sadly he was on his own so he died.

I personally think that legalizing would probably make it easier to get it without any of that drug dealer shit. like some fuckers BLEACHING it to give it more kick... you wouldn't get that a Lloyd's Pharmacy, but everytime I think about saying that I think back about my friend and that fear that legalizing it would mean more people would try it. big grey area eh?

wow really. i knew it was possible to be allergic, but had never actually heard of an incident. very unfortunate, my condolences.

but yeah, thats what i thought u were gettin at. that it was laced or something... a VERY common thing for growers to do, is use windex on their plants as well. (looks like it has more crystals.) and tho i dont kno exactly how bad inhaling windex is, im sure its not good, as its a cleaner, and not meant to ingest.

Yeah, things like that are bad and you hear about it impairing your brain but plenty of people never have any problems, but seeing the bad really makes it hard to judge. so going back to my original comment (and REALLY all I can say) if you do use it, just be careful.

 

[Custard_Angel]

Also, marijuana usage impairs the amygdala and hippocampus (emotion and memory brain centres), and leads to permanent size reduction, permanently inhibiting brain function.

im not calling bullshit, because i think what your saying is true. however, do u have a link or anything?

http://www.springerlink.com/content/x4x23795p285033r/

I can't find the exact paper I'm after, but here's an abstract for a paper that discusses memory impairment and marijuana.

 

[Private Custard]

I personally think as long as there are laws governing its use, it should be fine. It should be a person's own choice, what to do with their free time/their body. The laws should govern what you can and can't do whilst stoned, and possibly areas where you can and can't be stoned.

i agree 100%, so long as the laws actually apply to the 'drug'. much like the laws in place for alcohol... however completely different rules. marijuana does not affect your ability to drive a vehicle, it could potentially make u a safer driver, unlike alcohol. and public intoxication should not apply to marijuana, as it does not have any adverse effect to your social behavior, as alcohol has the potential to do...

being intoxicated yes, but actually smoking it in public is a firm hell no. its like forcing other people to drink with you lol

Do you agree with the Amsterdam method? OK(ish) in your home, OK in coffee shops.

As long as smoking tobacco and drinking alchohol is legal, I can see no reason why weed isn't. Same retrictions as alchohol should apply for things such as public consumption and driving, and it's taxable. Plus, if it was governed properly, a decent quality product that everyone knows is safe, will result. I've seen some wierd things in blocks of solid over the years!

I haven't been. But I guess so.
being a UK resident I honestly cant see us legalizing it anyway for the next few decades even. we banned smoking in pubs for gods sake! as if someone like David Cameron is going to legalize weed.

Maybe if it's flavoured with pheasant! Until then, I agree that it will remain illegal. I think the only thing stopping it is the fact that a whole generation of politicians don't want to lose face by suddenly going against all their years of 'anti'.

Pride getting in the way of a good idea, yep, it happens a lot!

And, if it was known exactly what was being sold, a reliable allergy test could be made available. I've never heard of an allergy to weed, but it sounds a lot like anaphylactic shock, or possibly a shellfish allergy (which my great aunt had badly, same throat swelling thing).

 

[dstoner]

http://www.springerlink.com/content/x4x23795p285033r/

I can't find the exact paper I'm after, but here's an abstract for a paper that discusses memory impairment and marijuana.

hmmm, interesting read... and from the research ive done on the interwebs, studies show that its also worse for TEENS... just sayin, thats probly another good reason to legalize it and set age restrictions.

 

[MaxwellEdison]

It can bring out the worst in people.

...Please explain this part of your argument. I'm pretty sure being lazy is not the worst in people.

There are people who get very addicted to it. To the point where they'll steal to get money, or even assault others just so they can get it. I'm not claiming that ALL users or even a large portion of users do.

Really now? Could you show me one instance of that happening? Cuz I'm pretty sure it hasn't.

 

[dstoner]

PROOF MARIJUANA IS NOT A GATEWAY DRUG:
http://scienceblog.com/12116/study-says-marijuana-no-gateway-drug/

PROOF DRIVING STONED IS SAFE: (which should also mean its safe at work)
http://cannacentral.com/news/driving-high-on-marijuana-not-an-impairment-study-says/

HEALTH FACTS CONCERNING MARIJUANA [I.E. CANCER, MENTAL ILLNESS]:
http://www.drugpolicy.org/facts/drug-facts/marijuana

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and finally, 10 THINGS EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT MARIJUANA:
http://www.passyourdrugtest.com/10things.htm


so can we please stop bringing these points up?

 

[The_Yeti]

Absolutely legalize. I don't really care how harmful it is, the simple fact of the matter is that, in a free country, the individual has the freedom to do anything that does not deprive another individual of their freedom. An individual can't choose to use drugs in the privacy of their own homes? Then it's not a free country.

There is no such thing as a free country, the simple existence of a "governed society" means limited freedoms, for better or worse. Though for this situation in particular its for the better it be illegal, you claim freedom through smoking pot, but you care not of the freedom not to inhale it from being around it, and don't even give me that "choose your company better speech" because if it was legal there would not be a single store or street not clouded by it.

 

[The_Yeti]

It can bring out the worst in people.

...Please explain this part of your argument. I'm pretty sure being lazy is not the worst in people.

There are people who get very addicted to it. To the point where they'll steal to get money, or even assault others just so they can get it. I'm not claiming that ALL users or even a large portion of users do.

Really now? Could you show me one instance of that happening? Cuz I'm pretty sure it hasn't.

o hey, i can, my older brother, the dumb asses he chose as friends, and 90% of my classmates back in high school.

While your morons go OMG NO ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCES LIKE NICOTINE, YOU CAN'T BE ADDICTED, you need to realize that people get addicted to substances merely for the feeling of joy in the process, it does not need addictive chemicals to make it so hungered for that the lazy and stupid would kill for it. the simple fact you pro pot patriots don't understand how your habit harms everyone around you is undeniable proof that either you were born with the intellectual capacity of a marshmallow, or your just plain stupid from the pot. Annnnd it is a gateway drug because smoking it while doable solo, is clearly preferred by the majority in a friend setting, making it follow the same path as smoking cigarettes, the only difference is since pot contains no addictive chemicals, your more likely to turn to other drugs if you eventually feel your pot is just not covering all the bases to make you a happy-go-lucky-hippy.

~Good Ol' Rule Applies Here~>
"Survival of the Fittest."
If you weaklings can't manage without your pot crutches, go die.

 

[dstoner]

Absolutely legalize. I don't really care how harmful it is, the simple fact of the matter is that, in a free country, the individual has the freedom to do anything that does not deprive another individual of their freedom. An individual can't choose to use drugs in the privacy of their own homes? Then it's not a free country.

There is no such thing as a free country, the simple existence of a "governed society" means limited freedoms, for better or worse. Though for this situation in particular its for the better it be illegal, you claim freedom through smoking pot, but you care not of the freedom not to inhale it from being around it, and don't even give me that "choose your company better speech" because if it was legal there would not be a single store or street not clouded by it.

legalize and REGULATE. that would fall under, REGULATE... plus pot smokers would not increase, again do some research. prohibition does not work.

It can bring out the worst in people.

...Please explain this part of your argument. I'm pretty sure being lazy is not the worst in people.

There are people who get very addicted to it. To the point where they'll steal to get money, or even assault others just so they can get it. I'm not claiming that ALL users or even a large portion of users do.

Really now? Could you show me one instance of that happening? Cuz I'm pretty sure it hasn't.

o hey, i can, my older brother, the dumb asses he chose as friends, and 90% of my classmates back in high school.

While your morons go OMG NO ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCES LIKE NICOTINE, YOU CAN'T BE ADDICTED, you need to realize that people get addicted to substances merely for the feeling of joy in the process, it does not need addictive chemicals to make it so hungered for that the lazy and stupid would kill for it. the simple fact you pro pot patriots don't understand how your habit harms everyone around you is undeniable proof that either you were born with the intellectual capacity of a marshmallow, or your just plain stupid from the pot. Annnnd it is a gateway drug because smoking it while doable solo, is clearly preferred by the majority in a friend setting, making it follow the same path as smoking cigarettes, the only difference is since pot contains no addictive chemicals, your more likely to turn to other drugs if you eventually feel your pot is just not covering all the bases to make you a happy-go-lucky-hippy.

really? 90% of your classmates stole from, and assaulted other people for marijuana?... man stfu, your a retard.

everything u said is false, and studies prove it (actually, i had just posted proof, scroll up fool)... everything u just said spawned from your imagination... addiction has been covered multiple times. marijuana has been proven NOT TO BE a "gateway drug"... and the rest is u rambling on about shit u kno nothing about...

p.s. who would kill for a plant that grows in the ground?... cant afford it? grow it yourself... your an idiot... just stop while your behind.

 

[MaxwellEdison]

o hey, i can, my older brother, the dumb asses he chose as friends, and 90% of my classmates back in high school.

While your morons go OMG NO ADDICTIVE SUBSTANCES LIKE NICOTINE, YOU CAN'T BE ADDICTED, you need to realize that people get addicted to substances merely for the feeling of joy in the process, it does not need addictive chemicals to make it so hungered for that the lazy and stupid would kill for it. the simple fact you pro pot patriots don't understand how your habit harms everyone around you is undeniable proof that either you were born with the intellectual capacity of a marshmallow, or your just plain stupid from the pot. Annnnd it is a gateway drug because smoking it while doable solo, is clearly preferred by the majority in a friend setting, making it follow the same path as smoking cigarettes, the only difference is since pot contains no addictive chemicals, your more likely to turn to other drugs if you eventually feel your pot is just not covering all the bases to make you a happy-go-lucky-hippy.

~Good Ol' Rule Applies Here~>
"Survival of the Fittest."
If you weaklings can't manage without your pot crutches, go die.

Holy shit. Ok, in order, anecdotal evidence doesn't work, if you're going to outlaw mental addictions have fun outlawing EVERYTHING, nice ad hominem, and no other drug provides the same high as weed, so your gateway argument makes as much sense as saying drinking alcohol leads to shooting heroin. By the way, I don't smoke marijuana.

And with that, since you're telling people to die simply because of the choices they make, I'm not going to reply after this. It's sorta sad that you can't argue your case without being so childish.

 

[dstoner]

1) because this person clearly is a child

and 2) he/she/it is an idiot for saying weed is addictive on a fucking gaming forum in the 1st place... weed is no more addictive then video games are, so i have no idea what his/her/it's point is.

 

[lady man lady]

i have never done weed in my life, but i don't think it should be illegal. the only reason it is is because of false facts being circulated. really, pot is much less addicting and much less harmful than many common drugs such as alcohol or cigarettes. the fact that it's illegal is baffling.

 

[Dark Knifer]

Legalize in moderation, not excessive amounts so people don't get desensitized and need stronger, more dangerous drugs. It would be better then alcohol and tobacco so don't see why not.

 

[soulfire130]

Keep it illegal. I don't see a point, even after reading nearly all the posts and links, to make it legal.

 

[IDTheftVictim]

Legalize it

While I see no benefits for doing so it seems to me that the fact that it is illegal causes a lot of problems (drug wars, tax dollars to enforce said no-weed law). I also don't believe that just because pot is legalized we are going to see it everywhere. Its not like once its legal every person is going to get high, well at least I won't.

I don't have any statistics to back up these statements, so if someone has proof I'm wrong I would be glad to hear it.

 

[Twilight_guy]

I want it banned. I also want alcohol banned too, so apparently I'm just a crazy tosser. I'm against weed though because I consider it to just be plain dumb (why do you have to get high to have an enjoyable time?) and legalizing it would encourage people to use it.

 

[dstoner]

Legalize it

While I see no benefits for doing so it seems to me that the fact that it is illegal causes a lot of problems (drug wars, tax dollars to enforce said no-weed law). I also don't believe that just because pot is legalized we are going to see it everywhere. Its not like once its legal every person is going to get high, well at least I won't.

I don't have any statistics to back up these statements, so if someone has proof I'm wrong I would be glad to hear it.

the facts and statistics are already out there, and they say exactly what your saying. plus it would be harder for teens to get, considering u would need to be at least 18-21 to buy it... not right away of course, but say 10-15+ years down the road. the sooner its legal the better!

also to that guy saying he sees no reason for it to be legalized... what about half the people in prison, who are now considered convicted criminals for having marijuana possession charges. thats like being arrested for having beer in your fridge, except alcohol has worse side-effects... not to mention maybe then police would have better things to worry about then someone smoking a joint. like rape and murder for example.