Poll: Weight-loss surgeries, your opinion?

[HardkorSB]

I'm scheduled to have a gastric sleeve operation in 2 months, and I know some have mixed feeling about the whole idea of surgery for weight-loss.

So what are your opinions, for/against?
And please give a reason, especially if you are against it.

(here are some info on the surgery I'm having:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeve_gastrectomy
and here some about the bariatric surgery's in general:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bariatric_surgery )

EDIT: the poll got fucked up as usual.

Why?
If you're asking this then I assume that you have mixed feelings about this as well.
I don't have mixed feelings about it, I think it's a silly thing to do with all my heart.
Even if you look like John Goodman after eating Danny Devito, you can still get in good shape if you'll work on it for a few years.
How about, instead of cutting out 3/4 of your stomach, you cut off 3/4 of your daily food supply?

How obese are you exactly?

 

[Your once and future Fanboy]

for those who ask, it's almost impossible to say how obese a person is.

while BMI is the standard, it doesn't work than as more as a loose guideline, for example, they did a celebrity BMI list a couple of years ago, and then people like brad pitt and tom cruse where deemed obese, while simmilar shaped actors where listed as underweight.
I wish I had a link, but I found it in a magazine, not online.

as for me, I have a condition where my body, more precisely my liver, harvest every resource it can get from the food I eat. It slows my matabolism down, and take more fat from food than it should.
I have had this for 15 years now, and I have dropped in weight, sometimes as much as 6kg (or 12-13 ibs) in a week, but in the end I gained weight again.

So I hope I have answered some questions there.

 

[Powereaver]

i dont agree with surgery unless its for a life threatening problem.. its so risky in its own right to be used for such silly things as weight loss.. its the easy/cheap way out for people who dont want to do any work, me personally am going to the gym and changing my diet.. sure its slow but im seeing benefits already and im also feeling better about myself mentally

 

[Vicarious Reality]

My mother did that. She's still FAT.
Stop being a lazy sponge.

 

[Viral_Lola]

I can?t say I support it but it?s your choice. I?m against it because of the damage it does to your body. Sure diet and exercise is a slow and hard process but it?s more of a lifestyle change. Besides, I could not have said it any better than this.

 

[Dags90]

My mother did that. She's still FAT.
Stop being a lazy sponge.

I'm pretty sure if he was a sponge he could just bud off and clone himself into a smaller version. Plus I don't think sponges are particularly tech savvy.

Are you planning on getting another surgery to remove your disgusting extra skin once you've shed your desired weight?

 

[Your once and future Fanboy]

My mother did that. She's still FAT.
Stop being a lazy sponge.

I'm pretty sure if he was a sponge he could just bud off and clone himself into a smaller version. Plus I don't think sponges are particularly tech savvy.

Are you planning on getting another surgery to remove your disgusting extra skin once you've shed your desired weight?

Im on a quite steady work-out program, and it's seems like I will have a pretty good chance of keeping my skin proportional to my body after the surgery.

 

[Wintermoot]

against in the end you need to eat less fatty foods (like junk food) and get more exercise in the end it,s temporary solution.

 

[Your once and future Fanboy]

I can?t say I support it but it?s your choice. I?m against it because of the damage it does to your body. Sure diet and exercise is a slow and hard process but it?s more of a lifestyle change. Besides, I could not have said it any better than this.

This is a clip I was waiting for, and I have to respond to some missconseptions that many have.
These types of surgeries have a great deal of lifestyle change involved with them, and the hardest work starts around a year later, therfore many usually just looks at the first year after the surgery and concludes that its easy.

There are some few weak-willed people who end up gaining alot of weight again after the first year. So you must watch your diet.
If you don't train during the weight-loss, you will have muscle degeneration that can be severe in some cases.
And even though you lose weight fast, your body can only lose up to a certain amount. The average BMI drop in these surgeries are about 15-20, so a obese person (BMI 40+) will at best return to a average BMI.

And just so it's said, that clip from Scrubs where directed at a fat ***** who said "fuck it" to even try any other way and just demand surgery as a first option.

 

[Estranged180]

I know someone that's had this surgery done. They went from 'morbidly obese' (according to an anorexic looking doctor and their famous BMI scale) to 'sick'. They now cannot get enough nutrients in them to keep them healthy. Oh, they look great, but they looked great before the surgery. It all depends on whether or not you can accept you for who, and what you are. If you can't, then no surgery in the world can help you.

I'd suggest serious life changes involving a reasonable diet (note, the diet I'm on is based on a diabetic diet) where you eat smaller, healthier meals, more often during the day. This does not mean go to McD's and get an apple pie because an apple a day is good for you. It means during those times between meals when you get really ravenously hungry, get an apple. Not an apple tart, not an apple donut, a real live apple. More veggies, and rice cakes have more flavors now than when they did when I needed to lose a person's worth of weight. I did the work. So can you. If you need a diet that works, and an exercise regimen that works, you can always PM me. I'll give you mine.

One last thing. Cut out all the mayo. Yes, I said it, ALL THE MAYO!! There ain't nothin' in there but fat.

Personal opinion on you getting that surgery... don't. Work it out. As I said, you can always contact me, a fellow Escapist, for assistance.

 

[Soviet Steve]

Well, from what I know having had the surgery is a good motivator for people to stay the course. If you get everything removed immediately there's a risk to your health (I think) and there's also a higher risk that you fall back as you haven't really put effort into getting in shape to begin with.

A limited surgery plus lifestyle changes seems like the fastest way to get on the right track, and seems sensible enough.

I'm well aware that you can "just man up" but seeing how we have obesity at all this has already failed.

 

[Liham]

Here's a suggestion: Eat less, move more.

 

[Thaluikhain]

It's drastic, something to be tried as a last resort. If it is a last resort, though, fair enough.

Oh, and, you really, really don't want to pay too much attention to randoms on the net giving you medical advice. Or discussing matters to do with body fat, for that matter.

 

[Vault101]

its extreme...and mabye the "easy" way out

but fuck it, for some its that or they will remain fatties forever

 

[Erana]

It's drastic, something to be tried as a last resort. If it is a last resort, though, fair enough.

Oh, and, you really, really don't want to pay too much attention to randoms on the net giving you medical advice. Or discussing matters to do with body fat, for that matter.

This, totally.

For all the people who seem to think that their personal experience applies to the world, weight-loss surgery does have its place.
Namely in situations in which the dangers of one's body fat outweighs the dangers of weight loss procedures.

The thing is, OP, Why on Earth are you asking this of people on the internet?! You go do what you need to do for your health. If this means following through with this procedure, then fuck everyone else. Their unthorough opinions on the matter aren't doing you any good.

That being said, if you're not sure if you're in a position to qualify for this surgery in the first place, I'd suggest explaining the matter in detail in the advice forum.

 

[warprincenataku]

Have you tried many other options like dieting and exercising? Of course you have. Sometimes surgery is the best option. Often times people get so upset about trying to lose weight they end up having setback after setback.

I say go for it, what have you got to lose? I know the risks, but I think you'll greatly enjoy the rewards.

 

[SinisterGehe]

If it is physically possible for you to lose it without surgery then do not take the surgery. (Like it does for 99% of people). All surgeries have a great risk involved.

Beside, if you take easy way out, you take the easier way to become fat again. Just cut back on your in take, become more active, not just by sports but also keep your mind active with interesting hobbies and you can lose weight. Believe me it is possible, physically for anyone to lose weight, mentally is a different thing. If you keep saying that you can't lose the weight and keep pushing your self-esteem down with fat and sugar, you wont lose it. You must want it enough.

Also. You can not lose weight by starving, your body will go to a lockdown and start using less energy than it did before and start storing every piece of energy as fat. That is how human body works. If you want to lose weight, be active, eat at regular intervals a healthy meal (it doesn't need to be all greens, you can eat meat and carps also, but keep it balanced with the 1/2-1/4-1/4 rule)

 

[Elsarild]

I'm against it, for the same reason I'm against diet pills and idiotic diets like atikins.

it's pointless, you get cut up, to get a strap on your stomach to help you eat less, so you don't take in as many calories, so you can lose weigth. Hold on, why not just keep track of what you eat and eat a bit less? same result, ad then you don't get the scar.

 

[Wuggy]

I'm going to join the neutral-rational choire and say "Don't ask opinion or advice regarding personal decisions from people on the internet".

As for plastic surgery in general, I don't know. I myself am very much a thin person and have been for most of my life. And it's because I don't gain weight, not because I work out or eat healthy. I'm for people being able to do whatever the hell they want with their own bodies, but I am going to say that it may tell something about you if you opt for surgery if you have the chance to just change to a healthier lifestyle. Then again, these things are always context sensitive.