Poll: What do you think about circumcision?

[agentorange98]

If we say no circumcision we're basically saying it's illegal to observe religious tradition and that's a slippery slope, I mean it could easily turn into making it illegal to build mosques or own a bible

If I say my religious belief tells me to kill all infidels, should it be made legal? The slippery slope is in the opposite direction: allowing evil under the guise of freedom of belief.

I think that it's a slope both ways, sort of a triangle and legislation dances on the tip. Like believing in creationism, yeah you can believe it and more power to you but it shouldn't be taught in schools as truth. Just like yeah killing infidels should be illegal but that's not what this kind of thing is.

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

Long story short... I can jerk off just fine without my foreskin.
I have absolutely ZERO problems getting a boner, penetrating a woman isn't hard either (unless she is super tight... but that's an entirely different issue), as for 'reducing female orgasms'... MOST women don't orgasm from penetration anyway... but when I have gotten the ones that do, well... there's no issue there either.
So, your argument sucks. lol
It is not an argument it is a scientifically tested and if you bothered to go back to page 3 you would have seen all the links.

I said it decrease erectile dysfunction rates so unless you are in your 60s that doesn't apply, "normal" penetration with a circumcised penis is harder as the foreskin folding back does aid in penetration I never said it was difficult or impossible, that is relative to the woman but once again it was shown that it was tested and they came to a conclusion that this was the problem.

So it is not an argument it is stuff that I have provided citations for if you want to go back a couple of pages and it would be nice if you actually had numbers to back up most women don't orgasm from sex. That can just be the person or bad performance or both.

It's not just the dudes business if he holds on to his foreskin or not. Penetration without foreskin tends to be more painful for both, and as long as not both sweethearts get a kick out of pain, it sucks. Plus, circumcised dicks are more tolerable with some lube, but most wielders of foreskin-less trousersnakes can't maintain firm manliness when confronted with things that make sense but aren't marked as proper in their holy books. If the old in-and-out is mostly painful and a single session will prevent you from enjoying sitting down for at least a week, it's very obviously just a stupid idea. I'd love to claim Stalin, Hitler or Satan came up with it, but, alas, unfortunately it's a silly idea that's older than any of them.

 

[n00beffect]

Well, speaking as a person who's had circumcision (circumcision-ee?), I can say that indeed, it is better in terms of hygine (and only that, really). How do I know? Well, I had mine when I was about second grade, and thank fuck I didn't get it because of simplicistic religious reasons. I had a... Well, let's call it a skin condition, I won't get into it, but circumcision was my only way out of it. Yeah, it was painful as hell, and I still remember it, for all the suffering it brought me, and continued to bring me until my wound healed-up. But, in the end, was it worth it? Considering that there are less virtues to it, then vices, I'd say no. Yes, it's more hygenic, but on the other hand it's a pretty fucked-up expirience, and it really brands you for life. And from what I've heard, people with circumcision tend to feel less pleasure from sex, due to having the upper skin of their penis removed, and that's where most of the receptors are - so, to hell with that! Plus, people who do it for a religious reason, are idiotic mongrols in my opinion, because submiting your child to the horror, especially if he's old enough to remember it, is on the same level as actually scarring him for life, and I don't believe in that whole 'whatever doesn't kill you blah blah' bullshit - it's true, but whatever doesn't kill you, has gotten pretty close to that, and that's never good! And even if it isn't self-aware enough to know why his pee-pee is missing a topl layer, it's still pretty emberassing, and once they find out... Let's just say it'll closely resemble the feeling of finding out that you're adopted (not that I know what that feeling is, but shut-up, made my point).

Well, I think the message you put out was the fact that you were two, and cognative when you underwent this, that alone could have skewed your vision of a circumcision just a bit, simply because you actually remember having your foreskin removed. I am circumcised, and quite frankly, I don't care, because my foreskin wasn't around long enough for me to really give a crap about it. That might have changed if I had a foreskin, or if I had it, then it was removed when I was little, but most people don't miss what they never had time to even know about. Just an opinion though, and I am sorry you had to go through so much pain when you were young.

Ah, no probs, thanks for the sympathy, and your opinion is totally valid. 'Ignorance is bliss', they say, even though I am not always in agreeance with that phrase. But, still, you've got a point. I guess I am just saying that if parents are gonna do it anyway, then they might as well do it while their kid is still oblivious. Although, I could think of several issues with this notion, like the fact that the child doesn't have a saying in the matter, and, as I said, is stuck with it for life, still I am willing to accept it, to a degree. Oh, and to any males out there, who are old enough to take that decision, and are actually consideringit, just a few words of 'advice': Be prepared for the worst.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

I am SO FUCKING GLAD that I am circumcised... seriously, women like it better, I like it better, less shit to clean, less risk of infection... it's overall pretty amazing.

"women like it bette" Oppinion.
"I like it better" oppinion.
"less risk of infection" Never been infected, cleaning isnt exactly hard, lame reason.

Con
It hurts
Children have no choice in the matter
Can cause issues

If we are going by your 'logic' then...
-"It hurts" is an opinion because people have different pain thresholds (P.S. I remember nothing of my circumcision)
- I bet if we did a poll... most women would actually like a man to be circumcised... seriously, who wants to see... that.
FACT- Yes, there is LESS risk of infection
I ask you though, what "issues" can be caused by a circumcision... because I guarantee that there are more issues that can be caused from NOT being circumcised that can come FROM being circumcised.

You should read the citations that people have posted but just in short I will say the cons of circumcision. It makes masturbation hard, penis is less sensitive, does not increase intercourse times, reduces FEMALE orgasms, erectile dysfunction rates increase and makes penetration harder. Like all surgery it does carry the risk of death and while it only 100 infants die a year in America it is still an unnecessary amount. There is a list of stuff for not circumcised ones as well but both have issues.

Do a quick google search and general consensus is only 25-30pct of women can orgasm during intercourse... foreskin or not.

That still isn't addressing what I have said. You seem to be under the impression that I think having a foreskin is like a vibrator set to high and left on forever. It is not. It does reduce the frequency of female orgasms if you bothered to read any of the links I posted on page 3. All you have done is just stated a fact that is related to one point and ignored everything else.

If you are going to make an argument you could provide the links I shouldn't have to find stuff to back up your argument. At least I told you where all my info was you just have to click 3 first post on the page and scroll down to the relevant link. Sure not all the sources are top notch but they are there.

 

[Snotnarok]

I really don't care that I was, religious beliefs or not it's not effected my life in any way shape or form. Should they be able to decide? ....hell if I know.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Long story short... I can jerk off just fine without my foreskin.
I have absolutely ZERO problems getting a boner, penetrating a woman isn't hard either (unless she is super tight... but that's an entirely different issue), as for 'reducing female orgasms'... MOST women don't orgasm from penetration anyway... but when I have gotten the ones that do, well... there's no issue there either.
So, your argument sucks. lol
It is not an argument it is a scientifically tested and if you bothered to go back to page 3 you would have seen all the links.

I said it decrease erectile dysfunction rates so unless you are in your 60s that doesn't apply, "normal" penetration with a circumcised penis is harder as the foreskin folding back does aid in penetration I never said it was difficult or impossible, that is relative to the woman but once again it was shown that it was tested and they came to a conclusion that this was the problem.

So it is not an argument it is stuff that I have provided citations for if you want to go back a couple of pages and it would be nice if you actually had numbers to back up most women don't orgasm from sex. That can just be the person or bad performance or both.

It's not just the dudes business if he holds on to his foreskin or not. Penetration without foreskin tends to be more painful for both, and as long as not both sweethearts get a kick out of pain, it sucks. Plus, circumcised dicks are more tolerable with some lube, but most wielders of foreskin-less trousersnakes can't maintain firm manliness when confronted with things that make sense but aren't marked as proper in their holy books. If the old in-and-out is mostly painful and a single session will prevent you from enjoying sitting down for at least a week, it's very obviously just a stupid idea. I'd love to claim Stalin, Hitler or Satan came up with it, but, alas, unfortunately it's a silly idea that's older than any of them.

I think you might have quoted the wrong person.

 

[Just_A_Glitch]

Well, last time I got into a debate in this thread, I nearly ruined my perfect health meter because of all the people trying to say I was stupid for having my opinion. So, I'm just going to say that I am pro-circumcision due to personal reasons, and if I ever have a son, he will be circumcised. Its an issue I will not budge on.

Now good day!

 

[Tselis]

i was on another thread and a user posted a very negative comment about circumcision. I'm not gonna link to it, but he said parents shouldn't be allowed to circumcise their children and ones who do should be punished.

i'm circumcised and i can't imagine being uncircumcised, so i don't think it should be illegal. but what do you think?


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Most of the nerves in a man's penis, that allow for feeling, are in the skin at the tip. The original reason for circumcision was to 'take away' pleasure from the act of sex, as a sign of faith, a covenant with God. Men can still orgasm, however there is less sensitivity in the penis after circumcision. I personally view it as a mutilation which shouldn't be available unless medically necessary. It should be an elective surgery performed on baby boys who have no say in the matter. They should be educated on both sides of the issue and then left to choose for themselves when they come of age. Just my opinion, for what it's worth.

 

[Slayer_2]

I think it's stupid, but people should be allowed to do it after they're 18, for the same reason they can get a piercing put through their penis. Honestly, circumcision is just cruelty to the baby, it serves no real purpose. If parents were to try and get circumcision of any kind performed on a female baby, they'd be locked up.

 

[drisky]

1) Male circumcision is not as big of a deal as people make it out be.
2) People don't like being repeatedly told they are a mutilated freak. So stop using it as an argument, it doesn't help you.
3) If you compare it to female circumcision, which people often do, you should be punched in the face.

Thus I come to the conclusion that I don't care/don't want to talk about it.

 

[Pipotchi]

Well, last time I got into a debate in this thread, I nearly ruined my perfect health meter because of all the people trying to say I was stupid for having my opinion. So, I'm just going to say that I am pro-circumcision due to personal reasons, and if I ever have a son, he will be circumcised. Its an issue I will not budge on.

Now good day!

Thats your opinion and your choice and you're perfectly entitled to both. Out of Interest what would you say if your son later grew up and regreted your decision to have him circumscised?

What about if he later decided he didnt want to have his own son circumscised? Would that matter?

 

[CATS FTW]

what exactly are the medical reasons for cutting the skin?

I cant really argue against religious people because theyed chop their own head off in they knew jesus would give them a medal afterwards.

I heard most medical/hygenic reasons were bollocks and just made up so people would do it more, and only a few certain people had good medical reason to be circumised because of something or other.

But I havent bothered to look into this.

Im uncircumsised havent really found it much of a problem. it terms of hygene, I do wash my penis, and even if I didnt wash it that much I dont go sticking it in a trashcan or rotting animal carcass.

The medical reason for circumcision is supposedly for hygiene benefits, this was true a very long time ago because the process was invented by middle easter nomads who didn't usually have access to fresh water to wash themselves with leading to infection and bacteria. However nowadays, with the advent of plumbing, or in america where rivers are plentiful the proccess doesn't serve any actual purpose unless you're a free thinking adult and you think it will make jeebus love you more then it's fine, to force anything physical on a baby for no other reason than aesthetics is a brreach of human rights.

 

[Vykrel]

i know its a touchy subject, but personally, im glad im circumcised. dont ask me to explain myself. the last time i said this in a discussion similar to this one, anti-circumcision folks treated me like i was hitler.

 

[loc978]

I sometimes wish it hadn't been done to me, but... not a huge deal. Personally, I feel in this day and age people shouldn't do it arbitrarily, that good hygiene should be taught instead... but as a treatment for infections and such, it's perfectly viable.

 

[Zaverexus]

I don't really think it matters so long as all the parts continue to function properly. I was the first son, so when the doctor said "well, circumcision makes infection less likely" I think my parents just said "oh, okay". I don't really care.

 

[Spy_Guy]

As a child, I was baptized.

I loathe the fact and I'm actually a bit upset about it even today, if it's brought up.

If I had been circumcised, too... I would be f*****g mad about it.
I feel violated enough as is.

 

[Sectan]

I kinda wish I was circumcised. I mean it's done when you're a baby. If a competent doctor does it you'll have no problems. Plus it's not like a person would remember having this happen to them at such a young age.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

I've heard it's much healthier for a man to be circumcised. I don't agree with doing it on a baby though they should be able to decide when they are old enough and make an informed opinion.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

Oh shit, I thought you were talking about me for a second.

I'm indifferent to it. I like the way my thing looks because of it, and I also think that it's slightly easier to manage, but I don't find it to much of an issue either way.